Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Getting a flu shot is one of the most important things you can do to stay healthy this year. Flu shots are available and free to University of Alabama students at sites across campus and at the UA student health center and pharmacy. Check out our schedule at CCHS UA EDU flu shot. Call 205-348-6262 for a flu shot appointment at the student health center or walk
[00:00:23] Speaker B: up Monday through Friday from 4 to 4:45pm WVUAFM, Tuscaloosa.
[00:00:36] Speaker C: Happy Sunday, y'.
[00:00:37] Speaker D: All.
[00:00:37] Speaker C: You are listening to Fit to be tied with Sheena and Whitney on 90.7 the Capstone.
[00:00:41] Speaker D: It's. I feel like, I mean, if you've been listening to our show, last week we did do a rerun.
[00:00:45] Speaker C: Womp, womp.
[00:00:46] Speaker D: We were not on the radio that, you know.
[00:00:49] Speaker C: But sometimes our information is so good, it just has to be replayed.
[00:00:52] Speaker D: It has to be played again. Because if you didn't know, you can actually go listen to our show's archived voices.
[00:00:58] Speaker C: Yes, Voices UA Edu.
[00:01:00] Speaker D: That's right. And you can listen to all of our shows that we've had in the past, and we've had a lot of guests and we've had a lot of different co hosts, and we've just. It's been all over the place. So if you ever want to go down a trip down memory lane, then. Voices. UA Edu.
[00:01:16] Speaker C: Yes. Okay. I have to take a moment and recognize the fact I am so grateful that this is a radio show instead of a television show because so this week, went to the dentist for a little tooth. I thought, you know, maybe it's just, you know, worse that could happen would be a root canal.
[00:01:37] Speaker D: Yeah, like that.
[00:01:38] Speaker C: You know, I had bets with my husband. Oh, no. Homegirl is gonna have to have a tooth taken out and an implant done. I'm gonna literally have like, a hole, like, in my smile for a while.
[00:01:50] Speaker D: Are you serious?
[00:01:51] Speaker C: Yeah. Somewhere between two months to six months.
[00:01:54] Speaker D: You know what? Face masks are popular.
[00:01:57] Speaker C: Yes, they are.
[00:01:57] Speaker D: Thank you, Covid. So you know what? You just pop a little face. Is it like one of your front te?
[00:02:03] Speaker C: Thankfully not. It's towards the front. It's in the back, but towards the front.
So enough for me to feel really weird when I am giving presentations and probably the way I smile. So I'm just literally gonna be smirking for, like, all of, like, 2023 and through the holiday.
[00:02:20] Speaker D: Well, and we'll just insert here that dental care is very important in your health and wellness routine.
[00:02:26] Speaker C: Apparently. Yeah. My family has really terrible genetics when it comes to some dental stuff.
[00:02:32] Speaker D: I think that might be something that is an AS culture, actually.
[00:02:35] Speaker C: Really?
[00:02:35] Speaker D: Teeth.
Yeah, I really do, because Jason's the same way, and his mom is the same way, being Vietnamese. And we always kind of joke about it, but I think it's actually a thing in Asian culture. So I don't know. Maybe we should look it up.
[00:02:47] Speaker C: We might need to, because I was complaining to my brother about it, and he's like. Yeah. He's like, I had to have a crown.
[00:02:53] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:02:54] Speaker C: Last fall.
[00:02:55] Speaker D: That is interesting. Yeah. Very interesting.
[00:02:58] Speaker C: Anyways, anyway, so next time you see Whitney, I will have a little gap.
[00:03:04] Speaker D: Well, it's okay.
[00:03:05] Speaker C: We'll break it. Maybe make it part of my Christmas card. Yeah.
[00:03:08] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. I love getting your Christmas cards, by the way. They're awesome.
But, yeah, we have a great show today.
We do have a guest that we're gonna be bringing in that you guys have heard on the radio show before. And so we'll get into that a little bit later. But, Sheena, I have to talk about. We got our student life newsletter this week, and it was just glowing all about Sheena. And I would just sit there and I got to know you even better, but it really kind of made me stop and think when I was reading your questions and answers and the bios. Like, man, you've done a lot.
[00:03:38] Speaker C: The university I have, you know, they had asked the question about, you know, what all you've done. And, you know, normally I always just say, like, oh, I've been in this position for 14 years. But then I forget about all the things I dabbled in.
[00:03:51] Speaker D: Right, right.
[00:03:51] Speaker C: As a student. So, you know, when I think about being a hall director and an Ranti.
But I did enjoy being a football recruitment hostess. Now, it was during the Shula years. One thing I did want to elaborate on in the newsletter, but thought it would just be way too long of a story, is I hosted.
There was a player named Andre Smith, and so he ended up going to the NFL. He was one of our big recruits. Well, that same visit was when Tim Tebow came. And so we were playing Florida, Tyrone Prothero broke his leg.
[00:04:26] Speaker D: All these different things. All the things.
[00:04:27] Speaker C: But I sat directly behind Tim Tebow and, like, I touched his hair because I was like, this person is gonna be famous one day. And my boyfriend at the time was like, what are you doing? I was like, this person's gonna be famous. I want to see touched his hair. But fun fact about Tim Tebow is that he was born in the Philippines because His parents were missionaries in the Philippines whenever he was born. And so I had talked to his mom and I had made this joke about how her son was, like, more Filipino than I was because he was born there.
[00:04:58] Speaker D: That's funny.
[00:04:58] Speaker C: She was not necessarily amused, but I can just say I think it's hilarious.
[00:05:03] Speaker D: Yeah. Wow, that's a really cool moment. So you touched his hair.
[00:05:07] Speaker C: I did.
[00:05:07] Speaker D: I guess you never washed that hand again.
[00:05:09] Speaker C: I mean, you know, Covid got me to wash it.
[00:05:12] Speaker D: Yeah, Covid got you to wash it.
[00:05:14] Speaker C: So I've seen him other times. I wanted to say I've touched your hair before.
[00:05:17] Speaker D: Yeah, because you did see him. Or maybe it was Nika that I'm thinking about because she had. She, like, ran up to him. He was in Moore Hall, I think. And she's coming on the show in a few weeks, so maybe we can ask her to replay that story. But anyway.
[00:05:29] Speaker C: Yes. So all the things. Yes. So before we go on crazy, crazy tangents, y', all, we gotta take a break, and then we're gonna introduce our fabulous guest that is no stranger to the show, but you are listening to Fit to Be Tied with Shannon Lytton on 90.7 Flintst.
[00:05:47] Speaker B: Wvuafm Tuscaloosa.
[00:05:56] Speaker D: Welcome back. You're listening to Fit to Be Tied with Sheena and Whitney on 90.7 the Capstone. And Y', all, I almost missed my cue because I was looking at Sheena and I had that, like, moment where my head was just gone. And I thought, do I bring us in? I always bring us in.
[00:06:09] Speaker C: No. And then I was like, do I bring us in?
[00:06:11] Speaker D: Yeah, it was weird, but I think it's you.
[00:06:12] Speaker C: I don't know.
[00:06:13] Speaker D: It really doesn't matter.
We're here together and tag teaming. So anyway, we have a guest on our show today, and I'm gonna introduce Charles. Charles Burroughs. He's our fitness coordinator over at the rec center. And Charles, you've been on the show and a co host multiple times. So welcome back.
[00:06:30] Speaker E: Thank you for having me. It feels like a home.
[00:06:33] Speaker D: Aw, it's home.
[00:06:35] Speaker C: Yes, it is.
[00:06:35] Speaker D: It's home.
[00:06:36] Speaker C: And you have, like such a. Like, like literally when you just started talking, you have this, like, radio voice.
[00:06:41] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:06:42] Speaker C: I don't know.
[00:06:43] Speaker E: I think part of it might be the allergies. It's actually making my voice lower.
[00:06:46] Speaker C: A little lower register. I mean, it's, you know, it's very good.
[00:06:50] Speaker D: Yeah. And you know, Charles was on. Well, I think he started coming on the show when you first started working here in 2000 when?
[00:06:58] Speaker E: I don't even remember 2018. I remember one of my first days back when JJ used to host the show, and he said, charles, I'm gonna have you on the show one of these days. First week I was like, oh, gosh, already?
[00:07:08] Speaker D: Here we go. And you never knew you were gonna be a superstar on Fit to be Tied. So we kind of looked to Charles as our fitness guru. Sheena and I both like to talk about fun fitness and nutrition things, but Charles has a different point, an insight. And Charles, just for our listeners, just tell us a little bit about yourself. I know you've probably said this multiple times, but we are growing our fan base, I think. And so the new folks need to know about Charles Bros. Yeah, of course.
[00:07:32] Speaker E: So I've been working in fitness for about eight years now.
I'm the fitness services coordinator over for University Recreation.
My main job and focus is all things personal training. So I oversee the personal training programs that we have to offer. I've been doing that for four years now. And then before that, before coming to the university, I worked in corporate wellness for a little bit, kind of focusing more on like getting employees active and moving. And then before that, I worked at like a little boutique personal training gym, kind of like a diet equinox.
[00:08:05] Speaker D: Equinox type gym.
[00:08:06] Speaker E: So something like that. But yeah, it's something I've been doing for a good chunk of my life now, and I love it.
[00:08:11] Speaker D: Nice.
[00:08:12] Speaker C: I think that's amazing. And you know, during your time in corporate wellness, I'm actually curious, did you find and you probably, you know, are doing some of the same things here at UA with our faculty staff? Are there certain things that are in sense that you feel like get folks motivated to be physically active? Like what's kind of the dangling carrot? Or do you feel like it really is helping them find those intrinsic reasons to do it? You know what I mean?
[00:08:37] Speaker E: I wish I could say it was just the intrinsic thing, but, you know, for a lot of people, I'm not gonna lie, prizes are always great.
But even more than that, interdepartmental rivalry that worked well. We would do competitions with buildings. So on the campus I worked at, we had over 100 buildings. Cause it was a chemical plant. And each building would compet with each other. And so within the building, you know, I'm George and I'm competing with Harry. And so it becomes a lot more interesting that way, like who's actually competing. So it's not just against, you know, a face you haven't seen. It's Someone you actually work with.
[00:09:10] Speaker D: It's like bragging rights. Yeah. I mean, because wellness does that. Wellness and work life balance, I think, with what is it movespring? Is that a departmental thing or is that individual? I can't remember.
[00:09:22] Speaker C: I think you can register for things as a department, and then, yeah, you can kind of see, like, rankings based on departments.
[00:09:27] Speaker D: I just think back to the day of Mike Brass, who used to be our manager of our fields at the rec center, and how competitive he was about, like, the steps he took to. I think he, like, hurt himself because he walked too much. And we're like, Mike, you're have to slow it down a little. So there is a little too much competition that, you know, can be had. But yeah, I think that's great. I mean, a little competition.
[00:09:47] Speaker C: Yes. I. There was at one point in time when I was still working in a clinical position at the student health center, I would be in these little Fitbit challenges with some of our nurses and pharmacy staff. And one of the pharmacy techs, she would have her husband joined in on our challenges. And it used to make me so mad because this person was a motorcycle cop. And Fitbit did not know that the vibration cheater. It was like 75,000 steps a day. And I was like, cheater crap.
[00:10:15] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:10:16] Speaker C: So anyways, they should have called him out on that. That would fire me up. So I just had to get that out.
[00:10:21] Speaker E: I'm fired up.
[00:10:21] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:10:22] Speaker A: That's not fair.
[00:10:23] Speaker C: That was.
[00:10:24] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:10:24] Speaker C: So anyways.
[00:10:25] Speaker D: Well, I'm kind of curious. You know, Charles, we work together because, you know, we're in the rec center running programs and all that good stuff. But for our listeners, what interests you the most about personal training and fitness and just what you do at the rec center or just in general?
[00:10:40] Speaker E: Yeah, I mean, I guess what got me into fitness initially was the fact that, you know, really throughout my childhood and up until college, I wasn't into fitness at all. So it was something that.
Not only something I wasn't interested in, but really something I didn't think I was capable of. I never really thought I could be in shape or that I could, you know, work out effectively or do things well.
[00:11:01] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:11:02] Speaker E: And so once I got to college and I realized that something I could do, I think what interests me about it is the fact that really anyone's able to do it. It's really just a matter of doing it and doing it consistently. And so I think that's what makes me interested in it, is that I can help educate people and show them that they're able to do that. And when you see that little light bulb come on for those people and they see that for themselves, it's really rewarding.
[00:11:25] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:11:25] Speaker C: I think that, you know, when you do have that personal experience of knowing how life changing movement can be and, you know, taking charge of your health, it just. It changes the way that you inspire other people to do the same. Because you're really. You can speak from your experience of like, no, no, no. I have been at ground zero, where you are at now. Like, this can happen, you know, Because I think sometimes a client may be working with a personal trainer, maybe even a dietitian or whatever, and it's like, well, you don't know. You've not had this str. It's like. Actually, I have.
[00:11:59] Speaker D: No, I think that's a great point.
[00:12:00] Speaker E: Yeah. Empathy is a really important part of personal training. And I always encourage our trainers that, I mean, not to go out and purposely be unhealthy, but to really try to put your mind and your head in their shoes and try to experience what they have. Because it just makes you so much more effective.
[00:12:14] Speaker D: Yeah.
What do you do for fun? I mean, you obviously like to work out and that. I mean, it's so funny. For me, that's kind of fun. Like, I love doing Pilates and yoga.
What do you like to do for fun?
[00:12:26] Speaker E: I do like anything outdoors, so I love hiking and camping.
I'm also a huge space fanatic. Okay, huge, huge.
It's unhealthy, but in fact, fun space fact for me.
[00:12:40] Speaker D: I was about to say, can we have a space fact?
[00:12:41] Speaker C: I mean, we need that now.
[00:12:43] Speaker E: So if you're listening now, we just passed the point where Jupiter is the closest to Earth that It's been in 62 years, I wanna say is the exact number.
So if you were lucky enough to be outside Monday night, you would see that Jupiter is pretty big in the sky. In fact, if you have like a telescope or binoculars, you could see the little bands that wrap around it, which is really cool.
[00:13:05] Speaker D: I didn't know Jupiter had bands. Wow.
[00:13:08] Speaker E: Not like Saturn rings, but like layers of bands wrapping around a shield.
[00:13:12] Speaker C: That's so cool.
[00:13:13] Speaker D: We'll have conversations. Cause I feel like everybody has their own little thing that they like to talk about and they're into or whatever. And back when Ryan Sanders, he was on, our manager over at aquatics was there and our offices were all next to each other, we would have Freaky Fridays and they would come in my office and I had a whiteboard and we Would, like, talk about things like conspiracy theory slash space slash. I would dissect the Bible and talk about, like, this is why this is this way. I mean, it was, like, deep conversations. So we like to. We don't only talk about fitness. We incorporate other aspects of our lives into what we do, which makes it kind of fun.
[00:13:48] Speaker C: And, Charles, you are also into art as well. You do that now. Have you ever incorporated your love for space and art together?
[00:13:55] Speaker E: That is actually what got me kind of back into art. So when we first started quarantining two years ago, I started painting again for the first time, and I was like, I'm just gonna paint space stuff. And so that's actually what got me back into art. So, yes, I do try to incorporate it, but I'm also my harshest critic when it comes to my art. So it's almost like I want to avoid the space, because if I'm gonna
[00:14:13] Speaker D: do space, it has to be right.
[00:14:15] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:14:15] Speaker D: The Milky Way has to look right.
[00:14:18] Speaker C: Oh, my gosh. Well, I love. You know, I think it's just anytime that we can hear from our guests and, you know, hear about some of the interpersonal workings of you, you know, anything aside from just the professional stuff is really great. And I know that just like our previous guests this semester, we will have a very specific question for you at the end. I'll save that in the end because, you know, I'm actually really curious what your answer is gonna be, but I am going to say let's take a break. Let's take a break because we're about to get into the meat and potatoes of things and get into some heavy conversation in a good way. So y', all, grab something to drink, run to the restroom. Do what you gotta do. You are listening to Fit to Be Tied with Sheen and Whitney on 90.7, the capstone.
[00:15:05] Speaker B: Wvuaf tuscaloosa.
[00:15:14] Speaker D: Welcome back. You're listening to Fit to Be Tied with Sheena and Whitney. And Charles is back on the show. Our resident fitness guru, who we always ask the really deep questions because you have such a good depth of knowledge. He's back, and we have a good little roundtable discussion. Well, we had really even started yet. We've been about talking about space, which is pretty important because we got to know, like, what's out there. So kind of. And this was kind of crazy, but kind of along the same lines in a weird way, and you'll understand in a second is our topic today with Charles. And when Charles and I have discussions about, like, anatomy and biomechanics and just how the body works and moves. We kind of get these really in depth conversations.
And Charles started introducing me to this. This idea of pain and the physics of the body. So, Charles, before I kind of like, butcher everything about this new concept that you've kind of been diving into and that you've been thinking about, and the reading that you've been doing, the physics of pain, like, what the heck is that?
[00:16:14] Speaker E: Well, I know it sounds like a WWE special or something like that.
[00:16:18] Speaker D: It really does.
I watch it.
[00:16:20] Speaker E: But what we're really talking about is we're talking about the physics of the body in terms of how we move and how our body, I guess, really deals with gravity. So, like, you know, we have this gravitational force that is constantly pushing down on our body at all times. And so the way that our body deals with that can tell us a lot about a lot of the things that we experience, like pain. And so I guess one way to sort of illustrate this concept or kind of drive home the importance of it. Sheena, I got a question for you.
[00:16:50] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:16:51] Speaker E: What do you think is the most defining physical trait that separates humans from other animals? So if I'm standing in a line, I got a monkey sitting next to me and a lion and a walrus and a spider, what is the first thing that stands out as me being different? Other than that I can talk and then I have clothes on?
[00:17:11] Speaker C: I mean, I would think maybe just even like, stature, like how you are, like, standing or, like, holding your body in general? Because I think even if I'm thinking of like, a human versus like, a primate, like, even though there's so much similarity, I feel confident enough that, like, you know, like, standing next to each other, be like, oh, that's a human. Just the way that, like, the body is being carried or, like, standing in, like, a standing stature position. I'm losing all technical words.
[00:17:39] Speaker D: Yeah, and I probably gave you a
[00:17:41] Speaker C: very incorrect answer, but that would be my thought process there.
[00:17:44] Speaker E: Actually, you're getting right at what I was getting at. Humans are bi pedal. We're on two feet, which means we're standing upright. And the reason that's important to this topic is it means that all of our weight is going straight through our legs. It means that we have a lot of force that is being pushed on our lower body, on our ankles, on our knees, on our hips. And not only that, but because we stand upright, it's a lot harder to hold our balance and also our upper body if we're not doing anything. With it, it's kind of useless. Your legs are doing most of the work in terms of getting around.
And so that is a big part of it is that because we are having to deal with gravity and because we can't just spread our weight out and walk on all fours, we usually don't do that.
As a result, we have to deal a lot more with the health of our joints and our ability to carry our bodies.
[00:18:36] Speaker C: Just thinking about that and I'm sorry, I'm interrupting. I'm just like, I'm geeking out because for one, I was like, I'm not going to be able to contribute to conversation whatsoever today because I have no idea what we're talking about. But it's funny that you mention what you are mentioning in regards to us putting all of our weight in our feet. My husband was recently sharing with me, I don't know if he saw this on Reddit, maybe 4chan.
It was basically pictures of people feet of individuals who wear shoes normally and then those in third world countries who do not. And then just the way that like toes are spread out and he was like, it was just very fascinating. So anyways, I will not interrupt anymore.
[00:19:16] Speaker E: No, that's, that's actually a really good point. We could spend hours, we could spend
[00:19:20] Speaker D: so much time on that topic.
[00:19:22] Speaker E: But you know, I like to think of your body as almost like a bridge.
You know, when you drive across a bridge, it's not just like a concrete slab across, you know, two bodies of land.
It's got all these supporting structures, it's got cables and it's got, you know, things underneath it and above it that all contribute to the structure and hold it in place. Well, you know, in our body, our bones are kind of like that concrete and then our muscles and our tendons are all the supporting structures that give us that structure. So it's really important that, that we are addressing those soft structures to make sure they're conditioned and they're strong and that they're holding things together.
So that's really what we're talking about when we're talking about the physics of pain. It's the ability of our body to actually hold itself and actually to move effectively.
[00:20:07] Speaker D: Yeah. And I think before we get even more in depth to that topic, what got you into it? Because I know you've always been good at working with clients and helping them reach their goals, but this is an in depth level, this is correction. So what got you interested in this topic?
[00:20:26] Speaker E: I think it was actually my own issues, you know, in High school, I, in the span of just four years, I tore like a man to my ankle. I broke my ankle. I sprained both ankles at no less than five times. I continually had ankle problems. And then after that, I started having back problems over and over and over again. And there was a period of probably 10 years where I couldn't go a month without pulling my back out. And it felt like at the time that it was just bad genetics or something like that. But I realized the issue was those supporting structures, those soft tissues, the things are supposed to hold my body in place, were not conditioned and in the best position to hold things together. So it was my own issue.
[00:21:06] Speaker D: Yeah, I'll say. I feel like your own experiences, at least for you, for sure. And I think most of us can agree that you start to get interested in these topics into your research because you want to improve your quality of life. And you were in high school when you were feeling these things, and you shouldn't feel these things in high school. You haven't been on this earth long enough to have that much trauma to the body. And so it's interesting that a shift in your physical makeup can cause pain. And that's kind of just for me as a practitioner. Pilates and yoga and the things that I think about and talk about it, it's the same concept of it's a mindful connection, and which is what you had. You realized you could correct these things, and so you started to do research and dive in and make these physical changes and you've alleviated pain. I mean, would you say you're pain free or would you say that you still. I mean, it's life, right? Like, we can't be perfect all the time. But, I mean, can you tell, like, a huge difference in your practices?
[00:22:04] Speaker E: Yeah, absolutely. You know, it went from being once a month to once a year.
So it's not something that is fixed. It is something that I continually address, and I think that's an important aspect of fitness in general. Right. We don't just fix something once. We don't just lose £50 and then like, oh, it's back to normal life. We've got to make these changes and establish this new pattern of behavior in order for it to be effective.
[00:22:29] Speaker C: When you've been doing your research on this, is there a lot of literature that's out there, or do you feel like in some ways this is kind of an untapped topic, that, you know, there are some, you know, practitioners within this industry that have heavily looked at it, but it hasn't been mainstream enough where, you know, it's part of like normal protocol where personal trainers are getting this as part of like their standard education whenever they're getting their certifications. Like what? Like, I didn't know how intentional you had to be with like finding this type of information.
[00:23:03] Speaker E: Sure, you've got to be pretty intentional. Actually, I think there's a disconnect right now because this is, it's very simple because it's really just based on literally like physics, like how is our body holding itself together and dealing with gravity. And I think up to this point the fitness industry hasn't really dealt with that very well and understood it.
So there are some pretty new research.
One book I just finished reading not too long ago called Symmetry by Patrick Mummy. It's awesome. He really dives into it.
It's a topic that's talked about some and like physical therapy. But it still has a lot left to be done to really kind of drive it home and take it from just a clinical setting to making it more fitness minded and more mainstream.
[00:23:45] Speaker D: Yeah. And the frustrating part for people like us that work with people all the time are trying to make these corrections is it's kind of like Pilates. Pilates can heal you in a lot of ways. Yoga can heal you in a lot of ways. The correction movements, exercises that Charles does can help help you, but they're not viewed by people in the same way. People. We're still in that western side of, you know, thinking about health care where it's like you go to a physical therapist or a doctor and they're going to treat just that one thing. They're not going to take the time to say, oh well, let me send you to this person. Maybe physical therapy they will. But we talk about like whenever Charles decides to leave, you know, the wreck and go and go on to his next thing. If he ever wanted a job, really working with people and analyzing this and correcting it.
There's not a lot of that in Alabama. It's a very. It's the same thing with Pilates. Trying to get someone on a reformer and be like, no, these movements will correct you and help you.
It's hard the way the fitness industry is. It's. That area is untapped. It's just now kind of like starting to emerge.
[00:24:45] Speaker C: No, and I love that because I think that yeah, when we're thinking about like healthcare as a whole and even something like this, you know, you know, so many times we're just so reactive in the things that we do. And this is certainly more proactive. And so, I mean, the fact that we're getting to talk about this today, like, I'm, again, just geeking out about it, and I know that we have, you know, even more to talk about the practical aspects of it. But let's take a break. You guys sit back, relax, grab something to drink. You are listening to Fit to Be Tied with Sheena and Whitney on 90.7 capstone.
[00:25:21] Speaker B: Wvuafm Tuscaloosa.
[00:25:30] Speaker D: Welcome back. You're listening to Fit to be tied with Sheena and Whitney, and I feel like I should do an infomercial and say, are you in pain? Well, we have the ticket, you know, because we are talking about the physics of pain. And when you think about the human body and how our muscles and bones all work as pulley systems and react, it's super important to make sure that you're lined up and you're correct. And that's why we have Charles here to kind of help us think that way. So, Charles, we left our conversation before the break, kind of talking about how you got into this and your own experiences. But I want to know, in your eyes, what we're doing wrong. Like, just our bodies. Like, in general, when you have somebody come up to you off the street or you're walking down the street and you see somebody moving, what are we doing wrong?
[00:26:15] Speaker E: Yeah. So that's a very fair question. I would say largely, what we're doing wrong.
Words are hard. I would say largely what we're doing wrong is it's gonna have to do with how our body is moving, which is a lot of times we're compensating.
So we've developed these imbalances where muscles on one side of our body are stronger and being used more than the other side. And that starts to change our posture, and that becomes an issue because all of a sudden, we got one part of that bridge be pulling harder than the other side.
So what good posture is and what good movement or even exercise, good form is, is our ability to balance that pulling on both sides of our body so that we're dealing with gravity as equally and as efficiently as possible. So we're not having too much stress on the knees or the elbows or the neck. Everything is being evenly distributed. So what we're doing wrong right now is more than likely we are compensating in some way. We have some sort of dysfunction in our movement, and as a result, it is starting to cause pain.
Absolutely. And one of the biggest causes of that is sitting Sitting is one of the biggest reasons that we start to experience all these postural issues. Right. If we're designed to deal with gravity, to walk, to run and to stand, the worst thing that we could do is spend 90% of the day gravity just pushing on us. And a seated position.
[00:27:39] Speaker D: You know, it's interesting, I was thinking about the spine just then and like the bones of the spine and the structure of the spine and how it's designed to take a load and your lumbar spine. The reason why it has a lordotic curve, which just means that the curve is going forward rather than backwards, is it's designed to take pressure. And it's designed the way the disc are and it's thicker at that part of your spine. It's designed to. When you're standing up straight and everything is in line and the, the of rest right order, you, you have that curve because it takes the, the extra intensity off of the gravity pushing down. And I was just thinking as we sit here, I was like, and I've said a lot today, wow. My low back is not super comfortable. Like I am not in a lordotic curve. In fact, I'm pushing my spine the opposite way. So it's not doing what it's supposed to do. I know it's like a super in depth thing to think about and that's what how I think. But like Charles, with the people that you work with and when you're trying to get them into these different postures and stuff, like, what do you do to address this?
[00:28:39] Speaker E: Well, for them specifically, you know, shout out to personal training. Having someone that is a professional knows what they're doing can make this process a lot easier because they can identify exactly what's wrong in those situations. What we want to do is we want to, we want to loosen and relax those muscles that are overbearing and that are kind of taking over and pulling you one way. And then we're gonna strengthen those muscles that are right now overstretched and inhibited, not being used.
So in a very basic sense, from a personal training standpoint, that's what we want to do. We want to strengthen. That's what's weak and stretched and loosen out and stretch what's over tight.
Now for just someone off the street, what they can do is they can start moving their body more in every possible way. Our body can, can move. That's bending, that's squatting, it's twisting, pulling, pushing, all these movements. A lot of times in the gym we get really kind of, we almost Forget that fitness is outside of the gym, right? We start thinking about looking a certain way or lifting a certain amount of weight. So instead of thinking about all these movements and muscles that we actually have, we just focus on those glamour muscles that look good. We focus on those big exercises that we always do, and we end up neglecting these entire movements. So even people in the gym every day, they develop these imbalances because they don't actually move their body every which way it can go.
[00:29:59] Speaker D: It's so funny. Again, Whitney's going off in like Whitney world and like her head. But I think me and you and Mikayla were having the conversation one day about how like everybody wants to lift heavy weights. They want to do these really like heavy exercises. And not to say any of that's bad, but you have to be really careful because you have to think, yes, you're strengthening your bones, yes, you're strengthening your muscles, muscles. But you also have joints. And a lot of times those joints, they can't take the look or you're gonna have an injury at some point. And so I think that's kind of the, the misconception we have about exercising is, yeah, we have the media and everything and like social media stuff that, you know, you want to look a certain way. A lot of times it's just kind of genetically people look, have those certain looks, but you don't want to be putting too much stress and load on your body. Stress and load is good at some point, but it also can cause injury. And in what we're talking about today, we need things to line up right and to take, I mean, to take less pressure off of things in the body. And if you're doing those exercises and you don't have good posture or misalignments, you're really going to hurt yourself.
[00:31:06] Speaker C: Charles, I know you mentioned, you know, working with a personal trainer can really help with this.
From your research, have you incorporated some, some of this information into the professional development sessions that you do for your staff? Have there been practical ways that you found to incorporate it? Or maybe it's just something that you are interested and planning on doing maybe in the future?
[00:31:26] Speaker E: No, we have actually. Yeah. You know, we. Something that I've started doing this semester we did back before COVID and just got back to it, is this thing called trainer talks. And so once a month, you know, the trainers will gather in the PT studio and we'll all just show up in our workout clothes, just very relaxed atmosphere, and we pick a topic and we just dive into it. And get into all the nitty gritty details. So just this past Sunday, actually, we all gathered to talk about foam rolling and myofascial release. And that is actually a big part of this corrective component. What we're talking about today is using myofascial release to help release those muscles. And those structures are just really tight. So it's something that we do implement with our staff. Because to be honest, you know, certification doesn't teach a whole lot about this. It's something you really gotta search out and find yourself.
[00:32:15] Speaker C: Yeah, that's awesome.
[00:32:16] Speaker D: Yeah, and I'm curious too, like, talking about the myofascial part of it, and you already talked about, like, strengthening and correcting.
What kind of resources? So, like, there's two questions I have. If you're a personal trainer and if you're a fitness person, what resources resources would you recommend to them to increase their knowledge on this topic? Or if you're just like just walking down the street, just a normal general person, what would be the first step? Like, what type of resources would you recommend?
[00:32:45] Speaker E: Fair. So I would say for personal trainers, that one's a little easier because they're so. Justin Price, he is a guru on this topic. He's very knowledgeable and he's done a lot of the research that currently exists.
He also has a great accent because he's from Australia.
[00:33:00] Speaker D: Yeah, can't beat it. Can't beat it.
[00:33:02] Speaker E: But he has a certification through ace, the American Council of Exercise. And it's called the book the Biomechanics Method. It's really awesome certification. So any of you fitness professionals out there interested in this topic, look him up. He's awesome.
I would say for the average person, you could also look these people up. Yeah, that would be one manner of doing it. And another part is just trying to be more intentional with how you're moving.
I think that a lot of people will find that the more they exercise that the more that they move and they start to develop that mind body connection that they'll start to.
That if they are intentional on finding all these movements or, excuse me, trying to do all these movements, that that's really the best method here because it is really hard to correct with some of these things by yourself.
But things that I recommend is, you know, if you have a certain lifestyle, you sit a lot, look up things that have to do with sitting a lot. You know, what kind of muscles are typically tight when you sit a lot.
Those kinds of inquiries can help you along the way. It's just kind of taking bits and pieces and looking those up one at a time. But I would say in general, just trying to move your body in as many planes as possible. So maybe the best thing to average person could do is look up movement planes and then find exercises that fall in those planes.
[00:34:20] Speaker C: I like how just practical that is. So, you know, you talked about what to look for, and then also for us to just be more.
Just more intentional with observing, like, how we're feeling, the things that we feel and actually documenting it. Because I think even when I just think about from a nutrition perspective, if someone's going to see a dietitian, it's like, oh, what did you eat last night? Like, it's gonna take me a little bit to, like, think like, oh, what all did I eat yesterday? But if you're actually documenting it, you can share some of that information because you wrote it down in real time versus having to think about things in hindsight. So that's really good practical information and recommendation to tell people, like, hey, if you're on this, in this purpose of trying to make this be practical, document it.
[00:35:02] Speaker D: It is kind of simple. It really is simple. And I mean, because my head just went to when you said, if you sit a lot, and I'm like, that's like, so easy because, you know, you sit a lot. Because people don't know where to start with the resources and what to look up. You could say, I sit a lot. Google help.
And then they probably say, do these stretches. So I think that's very, very helpful.
[00:35:22] Speaker C: Absolutely. Well, Charles, I know I said earlier, we gotta have you for our last segment, because we have a question to ask you. So we're gonna leave this cliffhanger. You guys, we will be back. You were listening to Fit to be tied with Shane and Whitney on 90.7, the capstone.
[00:35:40] Speaker B: Wvuafm tuscaloosa.
[00:35:49] Speaker D: And we're back. And hopefully we have solved all of your pain issues, because all you gotta do is start moving. But I will say that is very true, because if I sit at my desk for too long, I feel awful. And you have to make yourself get up and move. So keep that in mind. Physical activity can be your best friend. Okay, Charles, thank you for being on our show, and thank you for, you know, enlightening us with your methods of correction for clients and just giving us resources. But we have a question to ask you, and we already know a little bit about you. So I don't know where this. Where this will go, because I feel like we already know maybe how you would answer it. But last time you were on the show, we asked you you what you do for self care. This time we want to know what hypes you up. What pumps you up? Like, just in general, whether it's before a workout or going to work or when you just are feeling good. Like, what do you do to get, like, pumped up?
[00:36:39] Speaker C: Yeah. What gets you hyped?
[00:36:40] Speaker D: What gets you hyped?
[00:36:40] Speaker E: What gets me hyped. Ooh, that's a good one.
[00:36:43] Speaker D: So, for example, Sheena is listening. Hers is listening to NSYNC in the car with her boys and teaching them the songs.
[00:36:51] Speaker C: Right.
[00:36:52] Speaker D: I think mine was dancing and listening, which has been very consistent among our guests. But what gets you pumped?
[00:37:00] Speaker E: Let's see. Okay, so there's a few things.
[00:37:02] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:37:03] Speaker E: I got a repertoire, you know, a library of things I can resort to.
[00:37:06] Speaker D: Yeah. Okay.
[00:37:07] Speaker E: So one would be 90s hip hop.
[00:37:08] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:37:09] Speaker E: Whether it's the Notorious B.I.G.
tupac, Gangstar. I mean, the list goes on.
That's one.
Also, I've got some, like, kind of more hard rock music. Really just the screamo. The kind of stuff that's over the top that can also really do it. And then also like motivational speeches.
[00:37:27] Speaker C: Okay, okay.
[00:37:29] Speaker E: Who so Dave Goggins.
[00:37:32] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:37:33] Speaker E: You've heard me talk about Dave Goggins before. Probably. He's this ultra marathoner, ex Navy seal, special ops Marine, crazy guy. And his whole thing is about grit. And like, this concept of like, grit is like. Like a muscle you gotta flex and work on. After I read his book, I started running every morning at 6am in the dead of winter. And it's just that stuff hypes me up.
[00:37:56] Speaker D: That's awesome.
[00:37:56] Speaker E: He's so motivating. I will warn you, he's got a very dirty mouth. Every other word's a cuss word, but
[00:38:01] Speaker D: sometimes you need it.
[00:38:03] Speaker E: But it gets you hype. Absolutely.
[00:38:05] Speaker D: I appreciate that.
[00:38:06] Speaker C: Yes. And I mean, just to give you frame of reference, so we actually, and I was gonna mention this ahead of time, we had a guest who. And I'm probably gonna mention this every show.
[00:38:13] Speaker D: That's what I was thinking. This is gonna be something we mention every time.
[00:38:16] Speaker C: She said that what gets her hype is like a good plan for the day.
[00:38:22] Speaker D: Like a good organized plan.
[00:38:24] Speaker E: Yeah, that's amazing.
[00:38:25] Speaker D: Which sounds a little bit like Dee, our old fitness coordinator, because Dee was that way. But yes, it was the best.
[00:38:31] Speaker C: I mean, I would feel that way too, you know, just thinking like, oh, my gosh, I've got my to do list. I'm gonna accomplish this. I've got a plan to do it. Heck, yeah, I'm gonna be productive today.
[00:38:41] Speaker D: And then all you do is put on some Tupac and you're good to go. Yes, I know.
[00:38:46] Speaker C: Well, and it almost makes me think, and maybe this is the question that we ask folks next semester, but, like, going to the football. Not the football games, but baseball games, like, what's your walkout music? Like, I feel like there's so many different songs that I felt like, oh, if I remember that, to be the next batter, like, what's my walkout music? You know?
[00:39:09] Speaker D: Well, when you said it, I was like, well, what would my song be? And I think I'd really have to, like, think this through. But I always love the little Nelly, like, intro swing, Bada badda swing. That one. Like, I always, like, love that. I think it was on the whatever album. But, like, in my head, that's what it goes to. But do you have one?
[00:39:28] Speaker E: You're gonna laugh at this.
[00:39:29] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:39:30] Speaker E: Despacito.
[00:39:32] Speaker C: Are you Hilarious.
[00:39:33] Speaker E: That song gets me hyped.
[00:39:34] Speaker D: You're, like, pumped about it.
[00:39:35] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:39:35] Speaker C: Okay.
Yeah. Like, I'm playing in my head right
[00:39:38] Speaker D: now, and I'm like, it's a pretty good vibe. It's, like, very chill. What would yours be?
[00:39:43] Speaker C: So there's this song by the Black Eyed Peas, and so one of the.
And one of the members of the Black Eyed Peas is part Filipino.
[00:39:50] Speaker D: That's right.
[00:39:50] Speaker C: So there's like a chorus part where it goes Filipino.
[00:39:52] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know exactly what you're talking about.
[00:39:55] Speaker C: I feel like I would just need to do that for, like, props to my culture. But then also, you know, you've got your classics, like, you know, like, Notorious, big stuff, like hypnotized. Like, I feel like that's a popular one.
[00:40:09] Speaker D: This could be really good. Maybe this should be an addendum to our what gets you hyped? So this could be our two part question of what gives you hyped? And if they happen to answer with, like, with music or anything, then we can say, well, what would be. I mean, our guest that. That wanted to plan things on her planner. She might not have gotten that question, but maybe we should bring her back.
[00:40:29] Speaker C: And then, I mean, we might need to. But, y', all.
Great show as always. Charles, thank you once again for sharing your wisdom with us. Y' all have a fabulous week. You have been listening to Fit to be tied with Sheen and Whitney on 90.7, the capstone.
[00:40:48] Speaker B: Wvuafm Tuscaloosa.
