Episode Transcript
[00:00:10] Speaker A: Happy Sunday. You are listening to Fit to be tied with Sheena and Whitney on 90.7 the Capstone. And hello, my friend. How's it going?
[00:00:17] Speaker B: You know, it's going great. I am very warm right now because I have an electric blanket on half of my body. And you look very warm and toasty as well with your.
What are they called?
[00:00:29] Speaker C: Snugglies or snuggles.
[00:00:31] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm not sure if it's the actual brand name or not. So I will just say generically it is a wearable blanket. You know, some sleeves going on. It even has a built in pocket. And I think the package said specifically for remote control, so. So, yes, but no.
With the cold weather that just happened all week, our buildings on campus have not been heating up the way that they should. So. So, yeah, so I am bundled up just so that I can concentrate on the show today and not concentrate on being uncomfortably cold.
[00:01:05] Speaker B: Yeah. How about our snow days last week?
[00:01:07] Speaker C: That was wild.
[00:01:08] Speaker A: It was, you know, it was so crazy. And I, I eventually took my kids outside to look at it. I think we waited a little too long because then it was like melty and ugly. It should have been like first thing in the morning, but I didn't want to wake them up. But you know, we're in Alabama, we get excited anytime there is some semblance of snow. I don't know what, did you do any kind of photo ops or did you kind of just admire from ins?
What's kind of your style with winter weather?
[00:01:35] Speaker B: You know, to be honest, I don't.
Snow is fun. I think snow, like seeing it is really pretty and you know, we never get it. So it's kind of like this awe factor. Honestly, I didn't even know it had snowed until I got up and I was like, whoa, wait a minute, there's actually snow on the ground? Because I was thinking, you know, nothing's gonna happen. It got really cold and that was just kind of out of the blue. But you know, I did walk, like walked around my backyard and like checked everything out and I was like, look, I was like, this is cool. And like my little dog, dog Sully, she walked around and kind of played in it and, you know, that was about it. I pretty much just stayed inside and didn't leave my couch. It was kind of relaxing.
[00:02:16] Speaker C: What about you?
[00:02:18] Speaker A: The same. You know, we, when we went outside, my oldest son, Sam, we made a little like snowball for him to throw and I think he was kind of just like, okay, this is really cold. I'M ready to go back inside now. So it was, like, fun for, like, just that photo op, but then it's like, okay, let's go inside. And yeah, we definitely watched a lot of movies over the past couple of days.
So, yeah, I don't know. How about you? Are you watching any interesting shows? Did you try to be productive during the weather day, all that kind of stuff?
[00:02:49] Speaker B: I should have been productive, but to be honest, I was just. I had a busy week the week before and, you know, by the grace of God, I got a new H vac installed because mine was like over 10 years old. And I realized my power bill was up really high because it kept, like, pulling the, like that. He kept kicking on. I was like, something's not right. And so I had the guys come out and look at it and then they were like, you know, you could spend all this money repairing it, but to be honest with you, in the next couple of years or next year or so, you're probably going to need a new system. And I was like, are you serious? And so I'm really glad I did because my house is so much warmer now. And then it was. And so, all that being said, I got it just in the nick of time. I had a really busy week last week, so I didn't mind just sitting and watching tv. I did watch on Netflix. I started Firefighting Firefly Lane, which apparently was a book. I don't ever read anything but, you
[00:03:41] Speaker C: know, subtitles on K Drama.
[00:03:43] Speaker B: But, you know, that was really good. I finished that, like, pretty quickly. So I recommend it. It's a pretty good, you know, kind of bittersweet show. So, you know, give it a try, I guess, if you're interested. I mean, you couldn't watch it with a kid is definitely an adult, but. Yeah, good.
[00:04:00] Speaker A: Okay, good to know. No, I, you know, it's always nice to kind of make mental note of stuff to watch or binge watch. I have mixed feelings about the term binge watch, but it is what it is. But, you know, it's. It's nice to, you know, have that list of stuff to be able to watch. But, you know, it's. It's Sunday, like we mentioned, and it's. It's time for our show. And, you know, just like any other show, we have an awesome guest today. And some of you guys may not realize this, but we're actually kicking off Body Appreciation week on UA's campus. It's known nationally as National Eating Disorders Awareness Week. So we're going to give you that Little teaser before we go into our next segment, but we've got to take a break, you guys, so bundle up. Get a blanket, get some hot cocoa, a coffee, like I'm drinking right now. Do whatever you do, but we'll catch you on the flip side.
[00:04:56] Speaker B: Wvuafm tuscaloosa.
Welcome back. You're listening to Fit to Be Tied with Sheena and Whitney on this Sunday afternoon. We were just talking about the couple of snow days that we had last week and, you know, watching tons of tv, staying inside or possibly going outside and playing. It was a little too cold for me. I like warm weather. I'm ready for summer and spring. But, Shana, I'm curious, what kind of shows do your kiddos like to watch?
[00:05:28] Speaker A: Well, we watch a lot. They watch a lot of movies, or at least Sam does. And to be honest, he probably watches a lot of, like, age inappropriate movies.
He was asking a lot about Guardians of the Galaxy, so, you know, so he'll watch that and then just a lot of Disney movies. He actually likes a lot of the Disney nature documentaries about, like, animals in Africa and China.
So there's that. Although sometimes we'll be watching a grown up movie and. And he'll just look so enthralled. Like we were watching the original Point Break with.
And so of course, like, anytime there was cussing, which was like every other word, I was like, okay, we need to mute that. But ye. He was just, like, really enamored by them, like surfing and robbing the bank and just Keanu Reeves in general. And then I told my husband, I was like, okay, we need to turn this off now because he's looking a little too interested in this.
[00:06:25] Speaker B: He's going to start saying some of those words and he's going to go to school and you're gonna be like, oh, I promise we don't. I mean, yeah, you know.
[00:06:32] Speaker A: Yeah, so we're. We're that parent for sure. But we're trying to be better. But yeah, thankfully he. Yeah, he's just. Kids just say the darndest things. That's all I'm gonna say.
[00:06:44] Speaker B: So.
[00:06:44] Speaker A: Yes. But anyways, okay, so I know before the break, I was kind of teasing. I'm like trying to dig myself out of a hole before we get way too deep. But before the break, you know, we were talking about Body Appreciation Week being celebrated on UA's campus. We've actually coined it as that term since I think 2006. So it's been a while. But it is known nationally as National Eating Disorders. Awareness Week. And we're so lucky today because we love having guests outside of the UA community. And today get that treat. And we're actually going to have Leanne Bamberg, who is a registered dietitian, and she is the director of Nutrition services at Magnolia Creek Treatment center for Eating Disorders. So, Leanne, thank you for joining us this afternoon.
[00:07:28] Speaker C: Yeah, thank you for having me.
[00:07:31] Speaker A: So, Leanne, tell us a little bit about your educational background and professional background prior to working in your role. I know before we started the show today, you had been alluding to doing grad school here at ua, but we'd love to hear, you know, what was your undergrad years like, and just kind of getting to know you.
[00:07:50] Speaker C: Yeah, so I actually originally graduated from the University of Mobile with a degree in Human Performance and Exercise Science. And so I was actually a personal trainer for a little while, but I never felt completely fulfilled in that role, especially from the nutrition perspective, because there's so much that I wanted to be able to do nutritionally within that role that I technically couldn't do because it was really outside of my scope. And so I decided to go back to school. And so I went to the University of Alabama and did a post grad nutrition program.
And so I got my bachelor's of science in food nutrition, and then I went on to do a dietetic internship, and then I completed my master's at ua, did grad school there, and pretty immediately took my boards past those, and then have really worked in the eating disorder treatment setting since becoming a dietitian. So I initially worked at a treatment center that was. That was strictly partial hospitalization and intensive outpatient. And I did a little outpatient services at that time, too.
I did that for about two years. And then I got the opportunity to work at Magnolia Creek, which is a bit more. We're a bit more of a more acute setting. And so we offer residential services, we offer partial hospitalization services. And so I have been there ever since, which is about almost four years now.
Wow.
[00:09:08] Speaker B: And, you know, I'm just curious. You know, you mentioned you started out as a personal trainer. And I just want to bring this up to everybody, you know, listening, because we talk about fitness and nutrition a lot, and a lot of people when they come to a personal trainer, because that's what I deal with with our clients is they want a trainer to write them a diet plan. They want a trainer to, you know, kind of go, like you said, outside of their scope of practice. And we're very, at least at the rec center we're very careful. Like, we do not give any dietary advice, and even if we catch our trainers doing that, we're like, you need to back up. But, you know, how has that been for you?
You know, did you go back to training and kind of do both at the same time and merge those two together, or did you just strictly focus on nutrition at that point?
[00:09:59] Speaker C: I actually didn't. So I kept my. My licensure for, you know, for being a personal trainer up for a while, but I had kind of always been drawn to the nutrition field. I was really interested in it. I read a lot of blogs that were, you know, very, I guess, I guess, health and fitness specific. And so I really had been drawn to that. So I didn't actually go back to that because I found that there were so many other avenues just within nutrition that I was interested in.
I do kind of hold my, I guess, exercise science stuff on the back burner, especially with the population that I work with now. It kind of comes in handy when you have someone who might be struggling with, you know, excessive exercise or whatever that looks like. But I did not go back to that. I just found that I really have become really passionate about intuitive eating and health at every size. And so it's really hard, not impossible, but it's really difficult to kind of combine the two avenues of personal training and people wanting to sometimes fit into this very specific body size that's not natural for them.
And also learning to eat intuitively. Like I said, definitely not impossible. Possible. It's for sure possible, but it takes a lot of education, and it was so much more than I was able to provide in 30 minutes to an hour, one time a week.
[00:11:22] Speaker A: Well, you know, Leanne, you mentioned that, you know, kind of right from the get go, you started working with the eating disorders population. Was that on purpose? Like, did you kind of build up this educational career knowing that you specifically wanted to go into eating disorders? How did that play out for you?
[00:11:40] Speaker C: Yeah, so again, I kind of was always, I guess, drawn to that population to self disclose a little bit, actually recovered from an eating disorder myself. And so, thankfully, I was very fortunate to have a family who, you know, supported me and prayed for me and really gave me the hope that I needed to get better. And I did. But unfortunately, as I have kind of come to see throughout my time working with the eating disorder population, that's not the norm. It's not typical, unfortunately. And so we get a lot of, really, the majority of our clients who are feeling a lack of support, whether that's through family, relationships, friendships, things like that. And a lot of them are just looking for someone that understands what they're going through, has shared a similar experience.
And they're really looking for a hope, a sense of hope that they need to move forward. And I've been able to, and really wanted to be able to provide that to the people that I work with. And so I'm really thankful for that. But that's initially what drew me to work with the population.
[00:12:42] Speaker B: And you know, Leigh Ann, I think that's great. And I think with anything, people are looking for some type of connection or for somebody to understand what they're going through, whatever it is. And I think that, you know, when you're trying to tell your family something or like, especially with food or even like drug and alcohol and substance abuse, it's. It's so hard for your family to get it and understand because they want what's best for you. They want, like, you know, you to be well and to get back into normal swing of things or whatever that looks like. And I think that, you know, you clearly have a passion for that, which is awesome. And I'm curious. We'll be going to a break soon, but can you tell us a little bit about your work at Magnolia Creek and just kind of, you know, just give us an idea of what your level of intervention looks like there?
[00:13:29] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. So I currently serve as the director of Nutrition services there. And within that role I juggle a few different tasks just as far as one to one, counseling group education, menu creation, things like that. But by far my favorite is client care.
And some of the things that we talk the most about are intuitive eating, again, health at every size, intuitive eating being a long term goal, not necessarily something we can accomplish in the short term. But another big thing that we talk a lot about is how to find and adequately utilize healthy coping skills that are able to be used outside of using the eating disorder to deal with negative thoughts and feelings.
[00:14:10] Speaker A: I love that you bring that up because I think for a lot of listeners, and this is something that I know we'll dive into more after the break, but I think there's often that misconception that an eating disorder is just a matter of someone wanting to be thin or changing their body when it truly is an unhealthy coping mechanism from something that may have gone on in their life. And so I'm glad that you kind of brought that up because that's a great segue for us. As we go into our next topic But, y', all, we gotta take another break. We have so much more information that we want to dive into with Leanne, but again, we're taking a break. Grab something to drink. Bundle up. We will catch you on the flip side.
[00:14:57] Speaker B: Wvuafm tuscaloosa.
Hello, friends. You're listening to Fit to Be Tied with Sheena and Whitney, and we're having a great conversation about food.
I like to talk about food. I don't know if it's because I'm just hungry all the time, but I don't know what that says about me. I think about food. You know why? Let me tell you, I love to watch things on TV about food. It doesn't matter if it's like, Food Network or just people, like, in a restaurant or, like, you know, sitting down to eat. There's something, like, so satisfying watching people eat. I don't know what that says about me. I mean, you know, maybe we can look it up or go to a fortune teller or something and they'll tell us. But anyway, we have Leanne with us today, and she works with Magnolia Creek, and we've been talking about National Eating Disorders Awareness Month. And I think that, you know, shedding some light on this topic is pretty important. And that's what we do on our show. We like to bring awareness to you guys in the community, whether you know of these topics or you don't. And we just want you guys to feel educated. And, you know, I don't know about you, Sheena, but I always learn something new and different. Even on a topic that I think I know about, I always learn a
[00:16:10] Speaker C: different perspect,
[00:16:13] Speaker B: and it's just always very enlightening, I think.
[00:16:15] Speaker A: No, I agree. And, you know, and for this topic in particular, since I also heavily work with the eating disorders population, I get excited and I kind of geek out whenever we can talk about it. And it's nice walking away from every show that we do and learning something new and today, getting the expertise of Leanne. And, you know, before the break, Leanne, we had talked a little bit about some misperceptions related to eating disorders, and we'd love for you to kind of shed some light on that. Just as far as what do you think are some common misperceptions or myths about eating disorders that the general public typically has?
[00:16:51] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. So I think some of the most common ones, and one that I hear a lot is that it's, you know, diets, things like that are just an attempt to be healthy or quote, unquote, healthier or to simply lose weight. Maybe, you know, maybe. Maybe my loved one doesn't have an eating disorder. They're just trying to lose a few pounds or whatever. And unfortunately, we live in a culture that praises people who are in smaller body sizes. And so you definitely can't look at someone and say, you know, they're in a smaller body size, so they're super healthy, because you never know what that person has gone through in order to get to that smaller body size. You know, they could have drastically cut their calories. They could be starving themselves. They could be engaging in all these different behaviors in order to maintain that body size. And so actually hearing comments about being in that smaller body size could actually be perpetuating some of those behaviors. I think another really common one is that eating disorders only occur in young Caucasian women. And that is totally false. Eating disorders can occur in people of all colors, of all ages, and definitely of all genders. So that's another really common one or another one that I hear commonly from families is that, you know, it's a stage or it's a phase that they're going through.
They just need to eat and they'll be fine. And it goes so much deeper than that. And I always tell my clients when they first get to treatment, we're kind of educating them on their eating disorder and maybe what it's been used to cope with or what it's been. You know, why that's been the coping skill that they've used. And I always tell them eating disorders are never about the food. It goes so much deeper than that. So I think those are probably some of the most common ones that I hear.
[00:18:32] Speaker B: You know, I think that's. I mean, that's great to hear that, because, you know, you're right. People have this concept, like this mindset of I have to look a certain way. I have to, you know, fit into this size pants, which is.
[00:18:47] Speaker C: It's.
[00:18:47] Speaker B: You know, I've talked to people before, and like I said, I'm not a dietitian, but I mean, like, I'm in fitness and I can see things. And so I'll have people like training clients come to me. And like, I remember once I had this one client that was talking about wanting to be a certain size. And I remember kind of looking at them thinking, you know, I don't think that is a realistic size for you, you know, because it's not that, but it's like you couldn't get there. I mean, maybe you could. It wouldn't be healthy. And that's not the way we want to do it. It's looking at your own body and what's healthy for you. And I will say I've noticed more in magazines and in the media that people are focusing on different body types now. And it's not just the super skinny Victoria's Secret model look. It is more shapes and sizes. And even some of my, like, Pilates anytime, things that I like, I go on to for my, you know, education, I'll see different body types and I'm like, oh, wow, that's great. We're, you know, we're, we're showing that, you know, you need to be comfortable in your skin, but you need to be healthy along the way.
So, you know, I think that's great. And, you know, I'm curious, what are the most common known eating disorders? I have my idea, but I'm curious to know what those are and who all usually is involved in the treatment of something like that.
[00:20:14] Speaker C: Well, I think definitely the ones that are most commonly talked about and the ones that are most commonly discussed or get the most attention are anorexia nervosa, bulimia nervosa, and binge eating disorder. This is definitely not an all inclusive list of all the different eating disorder diagnosis.
There are several others that would describe someone's behaviors, but these tend to be the ones that get the most attention.
Typically, a treatment team includes or should include a primary therapist, a family therapist, a dietitian, of course, a psychiatrist or a nursing or a medical team and a physician. And you really need all of these different people and all the different pieces and parts to help someone really move forward in their recovery. Because of course, we want to treat the presenting psychological symptoms, but we also want to pay attention to any medical symptoms that may arise as well.
[00:21:06] Speaker A: Leanne, I'm so glad that you brought that up. Just as far as who all is involved in the treatment team, I know for myself as an outpatient level dietitian, oftentimes there are students or parents of students that, you know, they see the eating disorder initially as a food and exercise problem. So their first thought is, oh, well, she'll see a dietitian. And I truly have to make sure that my patients understand that at some point at the beginning of this process, I need them to get connected with a mental health professional because it is first and foremost a mental health disorder. I don't mind being that first level of intervention just to get them in the door of help, but I know you feel the same way. We're like, okay, we got to rope you in with everybody else that should be on this treatment team.
[00:21:49] Speaker C: Absolutely, yes.
Yeah. Because there are so many things that I cannot speak to that they might be going through. And again, eating disorders happen because of things that happened way outside the realm of just food and body image. A lot of times there's trauma that has occurred or something like that. And so there really needs to be more of a holistic approach, again, therapist, family therapist, all these different dynamics to be able to really speak to all those things that might be going on.
[00:22:20] Speaker B: And, you know, it really does take a team of people because, you know, I'm thinking as a trainer, when people come in or with anything exercise related, there can always be kind of a negative.
You know, work hard, work hard, work hard for exercise, which is totally not my mindset. Personally, I like to enjoy my exercise. And I think that a lot of times when people come to trainers, they have that mindset. I want somebody to push me. I want somebody to, you know, make me, you know, stronger, faster, whatever it is. And, you know, that's not always the healthiest thing. So those of you listening to us, if you are a personal trainer, if you're in fitness, you know, keep those things in mind that you need to, you know, be aware of your clients. You need to know their needs. And I think that having mental professionals and healthcare workers and a dietitian along, you know, with your trainer to understand and, you know, understand the person is super important because it's just. I mean, exercise is great and, you know, food is great, but it's interesting how we as humans kind of warp that and manipulate it for ourselves for, you know, different reasons. And it all, like you said, it stems from this mental side that whether we've gone through something with trauma or it could. I mean, I guess it could be something genetic. Mentally, I'm not really sure, but it's just interesting how you need a team of people for sure.
[00:23:47] Speaker C: Yeah, definitely.
[00:23:48] Speaker A: Absolutely. And I've probably said this on the show before. One of my favorite eating disorder intuitive eating dietitians is Kira Harbstreet. And she has a.
I think her social media is street smart nutrition. And she always puts this quote up when basically, it's a question for clients to ask themselves. You know, when it comes to things that we do as far as eating or exercise, you have to ask yourself, are you doing it because you love your body or you hate your body? And so many times I think those with disordered eating or eating disorders are really looking at the dietary changes or the exercise interventions that they're doing from a place of hate for their body. They're trying to see exercise as a tool of something that's punitive for them. And same thing when it comes to eating, too. So, you know, I think just us having that understanding of what that mindset looks like. But, Leigh Ann, we've got to take another break, but we're just so excited to have you on for another segment. But, you guys, we gotta take a break. You are listening to Fit to be tied with Sheen and Whitney on 90.7, the capstone.
[00:24:54] Speaker B: WVUAFM Tuscaloosa.
It's a lovely Sunday afternoon, and you're listening to Sheena and Whitney on Fitz v. Tide. And Sheena, I actually have a question for you that I just thought about because we mentioned it a couple of times in this other segment about eating disorders, and then you switched it to disordered eating. And I've picked up on that. And can you explain? Because I don't know if our listeners know what that is, but I need a little explanation.
[00:25:26] Speaker A: Absolutely. And we can also have Leanne add on to this. So when you do have someone, someone who has an eating disorder, that means that it has officially been diagnosed by their physician or mental health professional. There's different clinical indicators that healthcare professionals are looking at to really, you know, hit those check marks. But you could have someone with disordered eating, maybe they have started dabbling in purging or some chronic dieting.
So really, if I had to be honest, I think that probably, you know, even my patients that, that don't have a diagnosed eating disorder have some form of disordered eating. I think that when we're on a diet, you know, you've got some disordered, funky thinking that's happening related to your relationship with food. Leanne, would you want to add to that, you know, and expand on that, too, just to kind of give our listeners even more of an expansion on that differentiation between eating disorders and disordered eating.
[00:26:27] Speaker C: Yeah, I think you spoke to it really well. Eating disorders, of course, have been diagnosed. You know, you're meeting specific criteria that fall falls into this specific diagnosis. As far as disordered eating, I think the biggest thing with that, that people need to understand is that you are very much predisposed to developing an eating disorder if you are struggling with disordered eating and again, chronic dieting, feeling really negatively about your body.
You actually spoke to a quote, Sheena earlier from Kara Harbstreet, which I really enjoy her Instagram as well. But you Know, doing things because you hate yourself versus actually because you really enjoy it. I think that is kind of a great explanation.
Are you engaging in something because you actually find joy in it, or are you doing it because you really don't like yourself or you're trying to change something about yourself?
I think those are things that really would fall into disordered eating or severely counting your calories over exercising just because, again, you feel the need to change something about yourself. I think those are all things that fall in line with disordered eating and can ultimately lead to an eating disorder.
[00:27:35] Speaker B: And I think that kind of clears up. That's kind of in my mind, you know, when. When those two terms were being used, I was trying to think through it, and it's exactly kind of what I thought it was, is, you know, you. You can start to show these tendencies, and it could lead you to a diagnosed eating disorder or not. I guess it just kind of depends. But I think that's, you know, it's important for our listeners to know that, you know, there are certain things that, you know, a person can do, and it can start to negative, negatively affect your outlook on food. And I'm also curious because you guys have both mentioned this lady on Instagram.
So, like, how has social media impacted, like, how we view our bodies, either positively or negatively that you guys have seen in your field?
[00:28:22] Speaker C: Yeah. So, you know, social media is one of those things that can definitely have pros, but it has a lot of cons. And I think concerning body image specifically, it has greatly impacted just the rate of body dissatisfaction in our culture. And I think a lot of this is because of the comparison trap that it creates. You know, we're constantly comparing our reality to someone else's. Very beautifully filtered highlight reel. And with the rise in social media influencers, and then you have these kids getting phones and access to social media at younger and younger ages, it ultimately leads to just body dissatisfaction and really overall dissatisfaction with ourselves in general at a much younger age. And actually read a study the other day that said 40 to 50% of first and second graders were already dissatisfied with some aspect of their body, which is just so sad. And so I think that really speaks to how social media can impact how we see ourselves.
[00:29:17] Speaker B: You know, that's wild.
[00:29:19] Speaker A: It is. And I'm trying to. I'm actually trying to look this up while we're on air right now at some point in time. I remember a few years ago that Instagram, specifically, if you went into their help section, there was a direct link to the National Eating Disorders association website because it knew how triggering their platform was. And to also speak to, you know, what Leanne was mentioning with this comparison trap. You know, it's not just this comparison with celebrities or Instagram influencers, but this comparison of, quote unquote, real life people that we interact with every day. So, you know, your classmate or whatever else. And so, you know, comparing yourself to someone there who is, you know, likely use a lot of filters and manipulation. But because you see that as a real person and not a celebrity, you know, we get this mindset in our mind of, well, I can accomplish that too. Like that, you know, this is that moving target that I want to look like. And anytime I'm doing group conversations with, with folks, when we talk about intuitive eating or educating on eating disorders, you know, I have to bring up the fact and the reminder that we could all eat and exercise the exact same way but still look completely different. And I think, you know, we are in that eating disorder mindset and that body dissatisfaction.
We can't acknowledge that, you know, there's just that drive to look a certain way that is, is just physiologically not attainable, you know.
[00:30:50] Speaker B: And I've got, I've got two points to make. Point number one, I firmly believe social media is going to be the downfall of America. I have already gotten off of everything social media. I used to, I didn't have it for a while, then I was like, oh, new Instagram. And I was like, you know what? Screw this, y' all aren't going to like form my mindset anymore. I got off of everything. And, and the second thing is, you know, if you really think about it, and this is how it is for the gym, okay? When you go into a gym and you look at people working out, nobody cares about anybody but themselves. So most of the time, the perception, you know, that, that, that you think everybody's looking at you or judging you, it's not really true. It's because everybody is so self centered on themselves. I don't know if that helps anybody, but it helps me when I walk in a gym and I think, oh, you know, because I even work in fitness and you're still going to have these mental, you know, TR that come in and mindsets because of the type of world that you're in. And I'm, and I'm thinking nobody really cares about anybody but themselves. So I don't know, take it for what it is. Social media is the downfall of America. I'm just saying it right now on the air.
[00:31:54] Speaker A: No Well, I concur with you. And I'm so glad that you mentioned Whitney that you are off everything now, because I was literally convinced the other day. I was like, I think Whitney blocked me.
[00:32:04] Speaker B: Okay, Confession to the world right now. I have had multiple people go, yo, have you blocked me on Instagram? I was like, no, no. I just completely got off of it. Because, you know, personally, for me, it was like. Like, I enjoyed doing it. But I was like, I mean, is this helpful to my mental state if I look at everybody else? Like, I just had this realization of, I'd rather go out, go outside and
[00:32:28] Speaker C: watch birds and look at trees and
[00:32:29] Speaker B: look at, like, Instagram. And so, no, if you were. If you were my friend on Instagram,
[00:32:34] Speaker C: I have not blocked you.
[00:32:36] Speaker B: I just don't have it anymore.
[00:32:38] Speaker A: Okay? Because I was like, I don't think I did anything to make her mad. I was like, I think she just went back off the grid because that's her M.O.
[00:32:45] Speaker B: so steps to get away from everything.
[00:32:48] Speaker A: Okay, well, that makes me feel better. Well, Leanne, you know, just to kind of maximize our remaining time with you, this was something I wanted to loop us in earlier, but if, say, there is someone, a listener is listening, and there's someone in their life that they know is actively going through recovery, what are the best things that a person can say to encourage their support versus saying, oh, wow, you look healthy. Because we all know how that can be interpreted when you're going through recovery. So what are some, you know, types of things that someone can do to show that they, you know, want to tell someone? Like, hey, I can tell you're getting better, for lack of better words.
[00:33:28] Speaker C: Yeah. So I'm so glad that you asked, because that is one of the comments that my clients. Not actually when we're talking about relapse prevention, when they're getting ready to discharge, we actually work through. Okay, if someone says this to you, that's. Where is this actually coming from? Let's fact check for a minute, because maybe they're not meaning what you're hearing them say. And so things like that are actually things that we work on before they leave. But as far as supporting someone who is in active recovery, I think the best advice that I can give is always asking them how they best feel supported. Because not everyone is going to want words of encouragement.
Again, they can interpret things differently. I think, you know, someone may really enjoy that, but it's going to be different from person to person.
Sometimes it could be eating a meal with them or eating a Snack with them, talking to them. But again, asking them, what can I do for you? How can I best serve you? How can I be a support to you while you're going through this and letting them kind of take the wheel in that and let them let you know how they best feel supported?
[00:34:35] Speaker A: I love that. No, I think just the fact that we're telling folks, ask, ask that loved one, you know, how do you want to be supported? And sometimes I'll even tell our parents of clients, too, hey, something that you may say that they take as supportive one day may not be as well received another day, just depending on where we are emotionally that day. And so, so thank you for sharing that. And you guys, we're getting near the end of the show, but we got to take another break and then we're going to. You're going to have a little bit left with us. You are listening to Fit to be Tied with Sheen and Whitney on 90.7 the Capstone.
[00:35:16] Speaker B: WVUAFM Tuscaloosa.
We've had a wonderful show today on Fit to Be Tied. And we're just always so grateful for our listeners and grateful for our guests. And as always, I feel like, Sheena, the guests that we bring on just enlighten us. And I always feel empowered to go out into the world and be a supportive person for anybody that may need it.
[00:35:42] Speaker A: Oh, yes, absolutely. I gosh, just. Leanne, thank you so much for being with us today.
[00:35:48] Speaker B: Of course.
[00:35:48] Speaker C: Thank you for having me.
[00:35:50] Speaker A: Well, I know that, you know, earlier in the show and throughout the show, I was talking about body Appreciation Week, National Eating disorders Awareness Week. And I wanted to, you know, kind of selfishly give a shout out to the stuff that we have coming up. You know, everything kicks off tomorrow. And so actually tomorrow we are going to start Body Appreciation Week with hashtag makeup free Monday.
So we are going to be doing this on social media, kind of taking back social media in terms of adding some body positivity and getting folks to take selfies without makeup and using hashtag makeup free Monday and also hashtag uabodyappreciationweek. So we're excited about kicking off the week with that. On Tuesday, we have two events slated. The first one is going to be from 2 to 4pm it's hosted by the counseling center and the Women and Gender Resource Center. Oh, actually, excuse me. The counseling center and university programs. And that's from 2 to 4. And it's going to be outside on the Ferg lawn. It's called Treat yo Self Care. And so I Think we actually have some instructors from the rec center that are going to be doing some classes. We're going to be giving out Body Appreciation week shirts, doing some smoothies, also some other self care stuff. So that's going to be our hybrid in person event, which is going to be awesome. And then later that evening, the Women and Gender Resource center is going to be hosting event via Zoom. And it's called Strength for Everybody. And I know that we have for female professional athletes, I think Olympic weightlifters and bodybuilders. And we're just going to be talking about strength at every size and what that looks like, which is super exciting. And then on Wednesday at lunch over Zoom, we're going to have Allison Burnett from Alsana Eating Disorder Facility who is going to be talking about how to support someone in recovery and also ways to approach that conversation when you have someone of concern in your life and encouraging them to seek resources. And we have some staff from the counseling center as well as the Office of Student Care and well being talking about what that referral process looks like.
So if you are coming from the faculty staff side and you're working with a student worker who you are concerned about how to get them plugged into those resources. And then Thursday we will have the alliance of Eating Disorders Awareness join us via Zoom at noon to talk about how to build a more positive body image specifically for college students. So we have a lot of different stuff going on on.
I will try to attempt to use our social media to share that calendar of events that was part of my New Year's resolution, was to get us active on social media again. So I will do that and, and put that out there for you guys. But yeah, busy week.
[00:38:34] Speaker B: But you know, it wouldn't be spring semester at the University of Alabama if we didn't have a couple of busy weeks. And can you believe, I mean, we're on almost to the end of February, like we're getting there. It's about to be March. My question is totally off subject.
We don't have spring break this year, right? So, like how many students are still gonna go on spring break? We should take bets and wagers to see like how many students we think are still gonna go on, quote unquote, spring break.
You know, even though we don't officially have a spring break, I'm not teaching any classes this semester, like any adjunct classes. So that kind of be the way that I would check in with that to see like how many are missing that week.
I think that should be kind of interesting.
[00:39:22] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe we'll try to figure something out how we can do some type of anonymous polling so that nobody feels like they're putting themselves out there. But we would like to get a general idea. So I'm curious about that, too. But, you know, hopefully, you know, we're going to be rocking and rolling through the month of March, too, and it'll just, it'll be another semester under our belt. But, but, y', all, it is Sunday afternoon. It is the end of the show. We had an amazing show, as usual.
Please enjoy the remainder of your weekend. You have been listening to Fit to Be tied with Sheen and Whitney on 90.7 the Capstone.
