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[00:00:36] Speaker C: Happy Sunday, y'.
[00:00:37] Speaker D: All.
[00:00:37] Speaker C: You are listening to Fit to be tied with Sheen and Whitney on 90.7 the capstone.
[00:00:41] Speaker E: It is 90.7 the capstone. How about that?
[00:00:45] Speaker C: I know. And usually we're like, oh, and it's Sunday. Like, how's it going? But, I mean, I tell you, I can't believe we're in October.
[00:00:52] Speaker D: I know.
[00:00:53] Speaker E: You know, it's interesting. I like October because I like the Halloween stuff. And the boyfriend the other day finally got to see Hocus Pocus for the first time.
[00:01:01] Speaker C: Okay, so how.
[00:01:02] Speaker E: Yeah. Had never seen it before, and he was down. He liked it. He was like, this is pretty good. I haven't watched Hocus Pocus 2, and I've heard it's not as good.
[00:01:09] Speaker D: Really?
[00:01:09] Speaker E: That's what I've heard. But we're gonna watch it and see.
[00:01:12] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:01:12] Speaker C: Nice.
[00:01:12] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:01:13] Speaker C: Well, thinking about the fact that it's October, you know, and you have the gift of not being on social media, which I know.
[00:01:20] Speaker D: It's so great, so smart.
[00:01:21] Speaker C: But for those of us that are, we get the targeted ads. So of course they know everything about me, and they know I have Tiny who watch all the things. And so Disney on Ice is apparently going to be in Birmingham. And I would love to take my oldest, maybe my youngest. I would love to take my oldest, but I literally do not want to pay, like, $45 for, like, a spinning, like, Mickey Mouse flashlight that is gonna
[00:01:49] Speaker D: fall apart, like, by the time we
[00:01:50] Speaker C: make it back to Tuscaloosa.
[00:01:52] Speaker E: I mean, that's real. That's legit. That's legit.
[00:01:56] Speaker C: And then I'm just like, okay, if we go, maybe if the grandparents are like, oh, how can we contribute? I'll be like, give me the fund for the crap. The crap fund.
[00:02:06] Speaker D: You know, I don't know if I've
[00:02:07] Speaker E: ever been to Mickey or Disney on Ice. My mom took my cousin's kids one time, and she thought it was awesome. She was like, it was amazing. And, I mean, it kind of depends, right? Like, we've got some folks that think it's great. And some think that it's not. I'm kind of on a little Disney protest a little bit, because they need to get their act together. Sorry, Disney, if you're listening. But, I mean, you should totally go and then talk the grandparents into buying the spinning thingy.
[00:02:29] Speaker C: Well, and it's funny because when I was a small child, I did love it. And then when I was 23, I was actually doing a rotation at St. Vincent's at the time, and it was, like, coming up on my 23rd birthday. And so my boyfriend at the time, aka also my ex fiance, but that's neither here nor there. I begged him, like, I'm like, pick me up from St. Vincent's and I'm like, I just want to go to Disney on Ice. I think it'd be so cutesy. Like, whatever, whatever. Yeah, I fell asleep during this show.
And he was so mad because he's like, you asked, like, sit on the front row, all the things. And you literally fell asleep. And I was like, it was dark. And then the smoke show and all the things. And, like, the soothing Disney music.
[00:03:17] Speaker E: I wonder. I wonder, though, if, like, you should even go if you fell asleep.
[00:03:22] Speaker C: I know.
Cause I could see my children fall asleep. I could see me falling asleep.
[00:03:28] Speaker E: And then what else is fun to do around the holiday? Like the Halloween holiday? Like, pumpkin patch, things like that.
[00:03:33] Speaker C: Yes. So, yeah, so there's, like, the pumpkin patch stuff.
[00:03:36] Speaker E: Y.
[00:03:36] Speaker C: We can totally like. We'll do that kind of stuff, too.
[00:03:39] Speaker E: Do you have a favorite Halloween movie?
[00:03:43] Speaker C: We don't.
And I don't know if it's because my kids just haven't been at an age yet where we've, like, kind of created that tradition because they kind of just are all over the place with all the things that they watch.
[00:03:53] Speaker E: I'd say Hocus Pocus is probably mine. Not that it's, like, some great movie, but it's something that I feel when I watch it. Like, I enjoy. Like, it just reminds me of being a kid. It was, what, May 1993. And I think I was in fourth grade or third grade, something like that.
[00:04:06] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:04:08] Speaker E: And Halloweentown's pretty good.
[00:04:09] Speaker C: Yes. And then isn't it, like, Marnie from Halloween? Marnie, she got engaged or is married to, like, one of the other people that was in Halloween.
[00:04:18] Speaker E: I didn't even know that.
[00:04:19] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:04:19] Speaker C: I only know that because, again, the social media.
[00:04:21] Speaker E: This is why I don't know things. I'm okay with it, though.
[00:04:23] Speaker C: No, that's totally okay. But you know, unfortunately.
[00:04:27] Speaker D: But maybe.
[00:04:27] Speaker C: Fortunately, today our show is not necessarily about, like, Halloween and movies, but it's still gonna be a good show.
[00:04:33] Speaker E: It always is, Sheena.
[00:04:34] Speaker C: Yes, it totally. And, you know, I think in just a couple. I was gonna say a couple minutes, but really a couple seconds, we're gonna have to take a break. So we're just gonna go ahead and do that and get you guys to, like, sit on the edge of your seats, grab something to drink, run around the block, do what you gotta do. You are listening to Fit to be Tied with Shannon Whitney on 90.7 the Capstone.
[00:04:59] Speaker B: Wvuafm tuscal.
[00:05:08] Speaker E: Welcome back. You're listening to Fit to be tied on 90.7 the capstone. And, man, I had to change my chair because every time I moved, I felt like I was squeaking. And I love Seinfeld, and it reminded me of like. Like a Seinfeld episode. Like the tic tac episode. I don't know if you ever watched Seinfeld. But anyway, for those of you that watch Seinfeld, it was like the tic tac episode. Carrying on.
We are talking about Halloween and hocus pocus. And before we go any further about talking about our topic today, I do want to bring in our guest because we were talking during the break about hocus pocus. So with no further ado, Nica Morgan is back on the show with us. You have a new title.
You're in a new place on campus.
[00:05:41] Speaker C: I am.
[00:05:42] Speaker D: Thanks for having me back. I always love to be with you guys. Yes, but.
[00:05:46] Speaker E: Yes.
[00:05:46] Speaker D: So I was over in the college of education in the department of kinesiology for five years, and I have kind of what you call come home, if you will. I have gone back to where I my first love, which is health promotion, health education, where I got my master's and had some classes with the fabulous Ms. Sheena back in the day.
I am an instructor for the undergraduate program in public health, and I'm an advisor, and I have been there, what, like two months now? And loving it. I love my kinesiology peeps, but I love this because I feel like this is my jam.
[00:06:24] Speaker E: Yeah, this is where you, like, are most comfortable. I feel like you enjoy this type of, like, the topics of wellness, which is. You know, we're talking about that today, But I just have to bring this up. We're talking during the break about Hocus Pocus 2, and this is not a spoiler at all, but you were describing your youngest daughter. Right?
[00:06:42] Speaker D: Right.
[00:06:42] Speaker E: In her first.
[00:06:43] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:06:43] Speaker D: So she's six and she saw it last weekend. And so I asked her, I said, well, how was it? She goes, yeah, I didn't like it. And I said, why not?
She goes, mm, Sarah's eyebrows are too big.
[00:06:57] Speaker C: So if you have a child that is, you know, very critical and detailed as it relates to eyebrows and all the things, this may not be the movie for you.
[00:07:10] Speaker D: Might not be.
[00:07:11] Speaker E: It's so funny, though, because, you know, as a kid, because I think back about things like that with myself where, like, I would be so obsessed or honed in on something that I'm watching on TV that that would have nothing to do with the topic, but, like a. Like a feature, like eyebrows on somebody. And it makes sense because when you're a kid, you talk about the most obvious things. And her eyebrows, they were already really dark, and her hair's, like, super blonde. And so the fact that they're like. You know, the thing now is, like, eyebrows, like, everything on, like, social media that I don't have, this is what I hear. Eyebrows are, like, super in. And so it's funny to me that they were, like, huge. I don't know. It just.
[00:07:43] Speaker C: It's.
[00:07:43] Speaker D: I was waiting for, oh, it was scary or it was boring or it's just something not eyebrows on character.
[00:07:51] Speaker C: You know, I mean, I am waiting for. Is it Siskel and Ebert that does the movie reviews?
[00:07:56] Speaker E: Yeah, it might be Rotten Tomatoes. Maybe it'll.
[00:08:00] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:08:01] Speaker E: But anyway, Nika, thanks for being on the show. You've been on here quite a few times. I mean, you're kind of our wellness expert. We always bring you in on the prevention topics. And so this month is Breast Cancer Awareness Month.
[00:08:12] Speaker D: Right, Right. October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month.
[00:08:15] Speaker E: Do we wear pink in October or do we pick a day we wear
[00:08:18] Speaker D: pink all October long just to kind of show our support?
[00:08:21] Speaker E: Yes, that's right. We need to probably make a note of that.
[00:08:24] Speaker C: Yes, we do. And before we go into the breast cancer talk, specifically, I know that you had mentioned your new role in the College of Human Environmental Sciences and talked about also being in an advisor role in this college, and you were also serving as an advisor in kinesiology, too, is that correct?
[00:08:40] Speaker D: Correct.
[00:08:40] Speaker C: Correct. So do you find that students in he's have the same type of, like, life problems that students in Kines where it's like, oh, like new college. Same problems. Like, you know what I mean? Cause you're a mama bear. You know, you help them.
[00:08:59] Speaker D: Right.
So far, I have not had any tears shed in my office.
Yes, I Have not had any.
You know, I don't know what I want to do with my life.
So, you know, And I don't know if it's just. Cause they're getting to know me, and so they don't know how much they can open up to me. I'm a stranger.
The tears may come, come later. You never know. Because, I mean, being a student's hard. It just is. You're figuring out life, you're figuring out adulthood.
But so far, you know, everybody's just kind of okay, just rocking and rolling. Just rocking and rolling.
[00:09:36] Speaker C: Okay, I had to ask. So we're just gonna knock on wood or plastic or.
[00:09:39] Speaker E: Yeah. Or whatever this is.
[00:09:40] Speaker D: But now I will have to say this. A lot of my students that I'm seeing, they do wanna go on to med school or physician's assistant or they wanna go work for, like, you know, public health policy, cdc, those things. In kinesiology, I had a lot of students that wanted to go on. Pretty much all of them wanted to go on, like, a scientific route. Like more of, like physical therapy, occupational therapy, chiropractor. And I saw a lot of them earlier on in their college careers when they're taking the kind of what we call weeding out sciences. Oh, sure.
And so now some of the students I've been seeing thus far have been, like, seniors and juniors. And I think they're further along and they've already gotten through that.
And now they're just coasting and just trying to get through, you know, get to graduation. So I'm thinking I might not have caught them in the time when they're experiencing the organic chemistry too.
[00:10:36] Speaker E: Oh, that's a good point.
[00:10:37] Speaker D: You know, like, the emotions that come along with that. Yes, yes, yes.
[00:10:43] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:10:44] Speaker E: I had to ask.
What are you teaching right now?
[00:10:48] Speaker D: I am teaching drugs, Society in Human Behavior, and I'm teaching personal health. So we. We talk about all seven of. Well, some say seven, some say eight dimensions of health. And so we kind of focus in on each one of those. And I love it because I have a lot of freshmen in that class. I feel like I'm catching them at a pretty good time so they can start shaping their behaviors while they're in college to be more on the healthy side.
[00:11:15] Speaker E: Yeah, Well, I think speaking of behaviors and shaping, I mean, we are talking about Breast Cancer Awareness Month. And I think before we start talking about, like, how do you prevent these things? Because we will come up on a break in the next few minutes. But do you even know when we started celebrating or Recognizing Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Do we even know the date? We might have to Google it.
[00:11:36] Speaker D: I'm probably gonna be wrong about this, but I think it started with the Susan Komen.
Is that around, like, 95?
[00:11:44] Speaker E: Maybe if you give me a second, I will pull out my little smartphone and I'll Google it.
Yeah, I don't know, because I was trying to think through that, and I was like, you know, when did it become such.
I mean, it is a concerted effort. Exactly. And I feel like, you know, talking about breasts is kind of like, ooh, I don't know if we could talk about that. But nowadays it's like, oh, yeah, you do talk about these things. It's not taboo to say, and you need to be aware. Oh, my gosh, guys, I have to tell you this before I even look any further.
I teach dance classes at Capstone Village. It's so much fun. It's the elderly independent living, and they were decorating for their art br Bras for Breast Cancer Awareness Month. So they had all these bras in the little craft room with, like, sequins and feathers, and they're gonna hang them up as their art around. Isn't that awesome?
[00:12:30] Speaker D: That is so good.
[00:12:31] Speaker E: I was like, that's really cute. And I was like, oh, my gosh, what are all these bras doing over here? And like, well, that's our art project. So I just had to say that. Shout out to Capstone Village. Y' all are awesome for decorating bras. And I'm sure, like, everybody's kind of like, a little like, oh, my gosh, there's bras hanging up. But it's kind of cute. It grabs your attention.
[00:12:45] Speaker D: It grabs your attention. Conversation starter.
[00:12:47] Speaker C: And check it out.
[00:12:48] Speaker D: It's a great way for when a man wants to kind of of turn his head to say, do you know that men can also get breast cancer? It's not just a lady's disease.
[00:12:58] Speaker C: Yeah. And I did not learn that until I learned that from you.
[00:13:02] Speaker E: Really? Yes.
[00:13:03] Speaker C: So I don't know.
[00:13:04] Speaker E: It's funny, when I typed in when did breast cancer awareness start? It's brought up the Jeffrey Dahmer files. When did he. Like, when did that start? And I was like, that's not what I'm looking up right now. Sorry. That's just not it at all. But it says 1985. So breast cancer. This is according to Google. So this is Breast Cancer Awareness month. Began in 1985 as a partnership between the American Cancer Society and pharmaceutical division of Imperial. Imperial Chemical Industries. Very interesting. Betty Ford kicked off the week long event. So 1985.
[00:13:35] Speaker D: I wonder when it became the whole month of October.
[00:13:37] Speaker E: Interesting. Yeah, yeah, there is. If you're interested, you can definitely google it. It's the first thing that pops up if you want to do a little extra reading. But yeah, kind of interesting. It's been going around a year after I was born.
[00:13:47] Speaker D: Well, I started. Yeah.
[00:13:49] Speaker E: But anyway, let's talk about it. So, like, what is breast cancer? Like, what do we need to as women?
And I know this is a really big topic and we're gonna go into it, but like, what do we kind of need to know about?
[00:14:03] Speaker D: Well, I think one of the big things is that I hear it all the time is family history.
If I have it in my family, I'm gonna get it. And so you, you hear a lot about like the BRCA1 and the BRCA2 gene.
So I have a couple of facts on that if we have time.
[00:14:21] Speaker E: Yeah, we can go through those.
[00:14:22] Speaker D: All right, great. All right, so Here is what cancer.org says. All right?
If you have a family history, yes, you're in a higher risk group, but that does not necessarily mean you're gonna have breast cancer. That doesn't necessarily mean, hey, go schedule a double mastectomy or anything like.
But Statistically, only about 10% of individuals diagnosed with breast cancer actually had a family history of the disease.
[00:14:50] Speaker C: Oh, wow.
[00:14:51] Speaker D: Yeah. So here's how it goes. If you have a first degree relative, which is your mom, your daughter or your sister, and they had breast cancer below the age of 50, you should consider some form of breast imaging, like mammograms or ultrasounds or 3D mammograms about 10 years prior to the age they were when were they found out they had breast cancer.
So if mom came down with it at 43, you need to start thinking about it at 33. Wow. Okay. Now your second degree relative is your grandmother or an aunt, your risk does increase slightly, but you're not in the same risk category as you were with those first degree relatives, like mom, daughter, sister. All right, now if you have multiple generations diagnosed with breast cancer on the same side of the family, or if there's several individuals who are first degree relatives to one another, there is a higher probability. All right, so there is a lot of family history going on there. So you're going to want to have a conversation with your doctor sooner rather than later, get it on their radar.
But not every woman who has the BRCA1, the BRCA1 or BRCA2 mutation will develop breast cancer or ovarian cancer. And I hear a lot of women go, well, you know, we have it in our family. So I just went on and had my ovaries removed and my breasts removed.
Well, talk to your doctor and maybe get a second or third opinion.
Now, I will say if you do have the BRCA one or two, you are about five times more likely to get it than a woman who doesn't have that mutation.
But it is not a set in stone diagnosis.
[00:16:35] Speaker C: Well, and I think, you know, and this is a good place for us to take a break because I think honestly, that's very sobering information. And then I know after the break we want to talk about some of the other factors, like is there a higher prevalence in certain ethnicities and things of that nature? So you guys like, let's sit on this. You are listening to Fit to be tied with Sheen and Whitney on 90.7, the capstone.
[00:17:04] Speaker B: Wvuafm tuscaloosa.
[00:17:13] Speaker E: Welcome back. You're listening to Fit to be tied with Sheena and Whitney. And we're talking about boobs, everybody. It's National Breast Cancer Awareness Month. And so we have Nepa Morgan on the show and she teaches a bunch of health classes at the university and she advises our lovely students. And so we like to have her in as our guru for everything wellness. But we are talking about breast cancer awareness. And, and Sheena, you asked something before the break and I forgot what you said. I was thinking about candy because it's Halloween.
[00:17:38] Speaker C: Yeah, well, candy's always good. But I know before the break, Neeka, you had mentioned just a lot of the considerations for breast cancer, especially if it runs in your family and then which family members and all that kind of stuff. And then when we're thinking about other risk factors, one of the things that came to mind, especially just to be honest, I'm thinking like, okay, I'm sitting with two beautiful Caucasian women. I'm Asian. Like, who has the higher risk? Like, I'm thinking like ethnicity wise? Like, are there factors at play there, too?
[00:18:12] Speaker D: That will be me and Whitney. Okay, that will be us.
Yes. So according to, you know, the governmental statistics that are produced every year, the incidence rates in Caucasian women is about 141 per 100,000.
[00:18:29] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:18:31] Speaker D: Following right behind us, hot on the heels is the African American women at 119 per 100,000, then the Asians at 96 and Hispanics at 89.9.
But that is just the incident rates. When we're looking at mortality rates, death rates the Death rate is 40% higher in black women than it is the rest of the groups. Now, there's a lot of reasons for that. That can be socioeconomic status, you know, stigma, cultural, just all kinds of things. I don't really think that anything has to do with it being the race itself as, you know, something that you're just genetically predisposed with.
[00:19:15] Speaker C: Just like health care disparities.
[00:19:16] Speaker D: Health care disparities, yeah. Access to healthcare, equal health care access, all that kind of stuff.
But yeah, it's a sobering fact.
It really is.
[00:19:29] Speaker E: You know, I teach this little. It's our breast cancer stretch class over at the rec center. We've been doing it since, man, I don't even know when it started. Maybe back in the 90s because it used to be over at Fitness One. And then I think they didn't have a space. And so basically it's in conjunction with DCH and so ladies and men, but I have mostly ladies that attend the impact meetings at, I think it's First Methodist Church downtown. The yellow church is what I call it.
And I said yella, not yellow because of my southern twang. But anyway, they meet there and they have a support group for this and then they're referred to me and then they come to my class. It's really fun because, I mean, they're so capable and they don't realize how capable they are because they. There is kind of a stigma behind it. Like after, you know, having surgery and going through chemo, radiation, like, you can build your strength back. You just need a good support group and think about those sweet little ladies. And like, all of their stories are very different. Some of them have had, you know, a small little pin, like, like lump. And they're smaller chested. Some of them are larger chested and have had like mastectomies. And it's just interesting to think about, like all the different backgrounds of women that can have breast cancer. And I think that's one thing we forget about is like, it doesn't always have to be older in your life. I have younger, like 50 year old. Like a friend of yours from Russellville is in my class that I think her sister went to school with you.
[00:20:55] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah.
[00:20:57] Speaker E: And so it's like you look at her and I'm like, you wouldn't have, you know, you wouldn't have it.
[00:21:01] Speaker D: Yeah, you wouldn't have it.
[00:21:02] Speaker E: And so it's like learning about these things. And when you said to go get checked out, like even as young as 33, depending on that you know, 10 year or however way you're removed from the problem.
[00:21:13] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:21:13] Speaker E: So I don't know, it's interesting. I think it always sheds light. And every time we do this show, I mean, I'm only getting older and I'm like, man, we've been doing this show for a while.
[00:21:20] Speaker D: So, ladies, have you had your mammograms?
[00:21:21] Speaker E: No, I'm scared to death.
[00:21:23] Speaker D: Okay, so I had one this summer, and I'm happy to report back that it did not hurt as bad as it did the first time that I had it, years ago.
Now I am older and I've had two children.
And so because of that, I have more fatty tissue instead of dense breasts, which is going to lead me into what I want to talk about with dance breasts. And what is dance breasts?
[00:21:41] Speaker C: That's exactly what I was gonna ask. Cause I'm not gonna lie, I was looking at your notes, Nika, and I just saw in a big heading, what are dense breasts?
[00:21:49] Speaker E: And I'm like, let's talk about it.
[00:21:50] Speaker D: Yeah, tell me, what are dense breasts? Okay. They contain glandular, connective and fat tissue. That's what breasts contain. All right, so all of our breasts have all that.
So the density is a term that describes a relative amount of these different types of breast tissue as they can see it on a mammogram.
When you're looking in a mammogram at a dense breast, those breasts have relatively high amounts of glandular tissue and fibrous connective tissue and low amounts of fatty breast tissue. So think about young, perky boobs. Sure, they're high and they're tight to the chest because they're glandular and they're fibrous and they're connective.
[00:22:31] Speaker C: I've heard those exist.
[00:22:32] Speaker D: Yeah, they're somewhere out there. They're somewhere out there. As you get older, wear and tear, age, you know, gravity running, not having a supportive sports bra, that kind of stuff. Just gravity pulls on our breasts at the weight of them.
And also as we get older, we lose, you know, muscle and things like that. And especially if you've breastfed and things of that nature, it just now become more fatty. So when you're looking at non dense breasts in a mammogram, it's easier to see through.
So the dense breasts mammograms are harder to read because the calcifications and the tumors can appear as white areas in the mammogram. And it's less sensitive in women with dense breasts. So it's easier for radiologists to Miss the cancer.
So women with dense breasts get called back for follow up testing more than women with, you know, fatty breasts like me.
But you know, then people say, well, does me having a dense breast put me at a higher risk factor for breast cancer? And the answer is yes, Women with dense breasts do have a higher risk of breast cancer than women with fatty breasts. And the risk increases with increasing breast density.
[00:23:52] Speaker E: So how do you know what you have?
[00:23:54] Speaker D: They should tell you. So, yes, absolutely. Talk to the booby right over here, over here. Okay, so when you go to your ob GYN appointment and they do the exam for you, they can tell you if you have dense breasts. A lot of times they're just, they see it all day long. They're just used to it.
[00:24:16] Speaker E: Well, I guess that's true. Can you imagine how many boobs they have to see?
[00:24:19] Speaker D: Right.
[00:24:19] Speaker E: Wow.
[00:24:19] Speaker D: And I do have to tell you a startling fact right quick. But anyway, so, but so then that you ask, should women with dense breasts have additional screening? Now I will say this. I had my first mammogram when I was 28 years old because of my history with ovarian cancer.
And they couldn't read it because at that time it was before age in children. And I had dense breasts.
And so we did a mammogram and it hurt.
And so then they went back and they said, well, we're not seeing anything. We knew we probably wouldn't get to see through it. So let's do an ultrasound. And then I got cleared and I didn't have to have one again until the summer.
And you know, that's some, that's some time that has transpired and it didn't hurt, but my breasts are more, I guess, malleable.
Hi listeners, in case you see me out in town, keep your eyes above, up here, keep them up here, keep them up here. I'm telling you everything you need to know.
[00:25:19] Speaker E: Such good radio. I just have to say it really
[00:25:21] Speaker D: is drawing the right, you know, the interview the listeners in. But okay, so here's a really cool thing.
In some states, mammogram providers are required to inform women who have a mammogram about their breast density. And they have to tell you if you have dense breasts or not so that you're aware and that you can stay on top of it.
Because those who do have the denser breasts may be covered by insurance for supplemental imaging tests.
[00:25:50] Speaker E: Oh, that's really good to know.
[00:25:52] Speaker D: Yes. And so, so you know, just because you have denser breasts does not mean that you're gonna have breast cancer. But if it's hiding in there, it's gonna be a little harder to tell on a traditional background. And that's why there are supplemental imaging.
[00:26:09] Speaker C: Well, I know in just a minute, we're gonna have to go on another break. But after the break, Nika, just to give you a heads up, I wanna talk about breast implants. Cause I think sometimes people.
[00:26:19] Speaker D: But that was my startling fact that I wanna tell you.
[00:26:22] Speaker E: Oh, let's save it.
[00:26:23] Speaker C: Yeah, let's say it.
[00:26:25] Speaker E: Let.
[00:26:26] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Take a break, you guys. You're listening to Fit to Be Tied with Sheen and Whitney on 90.7, the capstone.
[00:26:38] Speaker B: Wvuafm Tuscaloosa.
[00:26:47] Speaker E: Welcome back, everybody. You're listening to Fit to Be Tied. And it's Breast Cancer Awareness Month. So we're talking about pink, we're talking about boobs, we're talking about prevention.
[00:26:54] Speaker D: And.
[00:26:54] Speaker E: And anyway, it's just been a good show. We always have a good show.
[00:26:57] Speaker C: Yes, it has. And if you are just now hopping on. Right before the break, I was like, what about breast implants? Can we talk about it? And, Nika, you got pumped because you had a.
[00:27:08] Speaker D: So I'm really excited. So my provider is at Grandview in Birmingham.
Fantastic. Excellent. And I went this summer for my mammogram. And I'm standing there, you know, getting things done.
And I said, you know, she's. She's manhandling me. I mean, really, you know, like, they have to. You have to kind of squish them at different angles, because that's the whole idea is to see through them.
And so I said, this doesn't hurt as badly as it did when I was younger. And then. So she said, well, were your brain.
And I said, oh, well, yeah, I've had two kids. I've breastfed and everything.
And I said, is this harder to do with women who have breast implants? And she said, yeah, it takes a little longer. We have to get multiple angles because we have to kind of try to avoid the breast implants.
And I said, oh. I said, so I guess I'm easy on you today. I'm a quick one. And she laughed and she said, yes. And she said, but you would be surprised.
We see more people with implants than we see without.
And I was like, do what now?
[00:28:25] Speaker C: So they've made a comeback. Like, I thought that they, like, you know.
[00:28:28] Speaker D: Yes, they've made a comeback. I thought it was implant implants.
[00:28:30] Speaker E: The butt implants.
[00:28:31] Speaker D: I thought that's where we were. But you know what? It Told me, I guess. Cause I think differently is if you do have implants, it's not this random. Oh, well, let me go get somebody who has more experience doing a mammogram. Implants. It's literally the norm. And not having the implants, it makes it sound like it's the norm. What a cultural thing.
[00:28:50] Speaker E: I'm sure there's gonna be some research on that.
[00:28:53] Speaker D: I'm sure. But she was real great. She was like, yeah, we just have to turn it and do different angles because we want to make sure that we're getting through that implant and seeing anything that could be there.
And you know, I didn't have anything to skew, so mine went a little bit quicker, I guess.
[00:29:10] Speaker C: So I would. Cause I feel like some people have probably had some false things. Thoughts thinking like, oh, if I get breast implants that could strangely increase my chances of breast cancer because I've manipulated that area of my body or whatever, what would you say to that thought process? Because I don't know if I've seen anything that would suggest that I have
[00:29:31] Speaker D: seen some of the older implants. Research on the older implants from the 80s and the 90s, that maybe we've come such a long way now that they're more safer, maybe more saline based than what they were. Because I've had a friend before that's had something that has leaked in their body and made them very sick.
And they were relatively new. So I think you just really gotta do your research. Talk not only to your surgeon, but also to your obgyn and ask about the pros and the cons.
Because we do have women that have reconstructive surgery after breast cancer. So that tells me that if they were all bad, they wouldn't allow that at all.
[00:30:11] Speaker E: I was just thinking about my ladies in my stretch class and all of them have had. Had implants because, you know, you. This is actually really cool too. There is a tattoo artist that will fly down from New York and will tattoo nipples on your chest that look 3D and real. So when you've had. Yeah, so when you've had like a mastectomy and you want an implant, they will come down. And actually, it's really cool. I actually got to see one. She was like, you wanna see it? I was like, yeah, I really do. Because that's actually cool. And it looked amazing. You could. I mean, you could tell, like slightly, but like, if you're really looking. The other interesting thing is one of them had. Had implants put in, but to make like the pocket for it to go in. They actually took part of their lat in their back and brought it around to the front. Because I was, like, muscularly trying to figure this out.
How does this work? How do we work this? And it's really kind of amazing what they can do to make you feel like a woman again. If that's been a part of you, that's part of.
[00:31:04] Speaker D: You know, there are some safer alternatives. And I've also heard people before say, well, I got slammed into. So my breast got slammed pretty hard, like somebody ran into me. Or this mammogram machine now has given me breast cancer. And it doesn't make breast cancer spread.
That's a myth now. Yeah. Trauma to the breast, I mean. Yeah, you just would go to the doctor and have that checked out.
[00:31:28] Speaker E: And it's interesting, too, because then you have the other end of the spectrum where women go in to have breast reductions. And I know my mom had that. And, I mean, they check everything out. Out when you have that surgery. So I don't know. It's good to be up on this type of information. And like you said, talk to your doctor. Like, you always need to be not
[00:31:44] Speaker D: just your plastic surgeon, but also your obgyn. You know, get it from both. I tell people there is room for both vanity and health in this world. You can have both.
[00:31:54] Speaker C: No, that's a good statement.
[00:31:56] Speaker D: But you do want to err towards health because, you know, vanity. Yeah. It can cause us, like, to be sad about the way we look or the way we feel. But if we're not healthy, that affects every area of our life, you know, financially, physically, emotionally.
So.
But yeah, so, like, if you see a change in how your breast or nipple looks or feels, holler at your doctor.
[00:32:18] Speaker E: That's what I was gonna ask you. Like, when, like, okay, we need mammograms. I know they're. Cause last time I went to my doctor, I'm 37. She was like, you wanna get a mammogram? I was like, no, thanks. Okay.
[00:32:27] Speaker D: So some physicians will say start at 40.
[00:32:30] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[00:32:30] Speaker D: Some physicians will say start at 45. But the consensus is at least at 55 and up, depending on your history and your risk factors.
[00:32:39] Speaker E: Your 40 is a good age.
[00:32:40] Speaker D: Your physician will talk about whether doing it yearly or every two years.
[00:32:44] Speaker C: Well, and it's funny because, like, when my doctor has put. I think I was like, does insurance cover that? Is that why you're asking me? Because I'm always like, you know, unfortunately, when we think about, like, cost of Healthcare, it's like, okay, if you're offering this to me, please tell me that this is covered by my right plan. You know?
[00:33:02] Speaker D: It is. And I think this is also interesting, too, that some of you may not know, but they have these little deodorant wipes in there because you have to take your deodorant off because it kind of does a reflection on the mammogram.
[00:33:14] Speaker E: Well, what if you use a hippie deodorant? Would it reflect?
[00:33:17] Speaker D: I think you just don't need any aluminum.
[00:33:19] Speaker E: So I guess hippie deodorant would be
[00:33:20] Speaker D: fine, but they just have these little things where you just wipe it off and then they have a little spray deodorant to put it back on when you go to leave. So they've got it all figured out. And let me tell you, it was just, you know, sometimes being a lady and going through lady doctor's appointments can be unnerving. But that one was really. I have to give a shout out to Grandview. It was just, you went in, changed it to a robe, watched Yoda off, got it done, boom, out of there. Five minutes it was, and I slept better. When I got my results, I was like, okay. Something I don't have to think about for the next year.
[00:33:50] Speaker C: Well, and, you know, we've definitely talked about this a lot from a female perspective, but. But I know you mentioned, too, men
[00:33:57] Speaker D: can have it, too. Yes. So, men, I want you to listen to this because I know you might tune this out when you hear it told to the ladies that this goes the same as you. You do have glandular, fibrous connective muscle tissue in your breast area.
And everyone has estrogen. You know, we all have testosterone and estrogen. So if you see that your breast or your nipple looks or feels different, it shouldn't probably be doing that. So if there's some nipple tenderness or a lump or thickening in the underarm area, your skin is, like, puckering or looking like an orange peel.
Just call your dog. It could be nothing. But we want them, the ones that look at it all day long, to determine that if you have anything that's red or scaly or hot, I mean, that's a sign that there's something going on, maybe an infection.
We don't want any, really. Nipple discharge if you're not pregnant, lactating, that kind of stuff, you have a family history or you've been told by your doctor that you might be at high risk. I remember working at St. Vincent's in 2012 and a gentleman came up to our breast cancer awareness table and said, I'm a survivor. And I was like, really? And he said, yeah. He said, I was actually talking to my wife about doing a self exam. And he goes, I was just kind of kidding around with her. So I started doing it to myself, like, you know, being like, hey, I'll do mine too. And he said. And I felt something odd. And he said it was like a little tiny size of a pea and just thought it was, you know, just calcification. And he ended up having to get some tissue removed and go through chemo and radiation. Oh, man. And I was so thankful that he shared that for. Because that's really the only man that I've personally known that has admitted that.
[00:35:48] Speaker E: Yeah. Because you have to think, like, if that does happen to a guy, that's not something you would necessarily want to talk about. Just, you know, just being a dude, I guess. But I don't know, I'm glad that they did say that and bring that idea up. Maybe other people would feel comfortable. Exactly.
[00:36:06] Speaker D: He said, man can absolutely have it. So. And you think about it, we all on the parts, it's just women's are a little bit more profound.
[00:36:14] Speaker C: Well, that means I'll be doing a breast exam on my husband.
[00:36:18] Speaker D: That's awesome.
[00:36:19] Speaker C: Like I said. Okay, we gotta take a break. Nico, we want you for our last bit.
We have a question for you. So with that said, you guys are listening. Fit to be tied with Sheen and Whitney on 90.7, the capstone.
[00:36:35] Speaker B: Wvuafm Tuscaloosa.
[00:36:44] Speaker E: We have had an awesome show today. You're listening to Fit to be tied and Breast cancer awareness month. Go get checked out. Men and women. Just be aware. Know your bodies and China. You brought up a really good point. Or actually, Nika, you did too. We're just kind of talking about some more information. But like alcohol used, you need to be very mindful. Mindful with how many drinks you have a day or even in a week. Because weren't you telling us that that increases your risks?
[00:37:07] Speaker D: Yes. Alcohol has been shown, proven in fact, to increase estrogen in your bloodstream.
And the guidance is moderation is one drink per day. It has been shown to slightly increase the risk of breast cancer. And so having more than one drink per day has shown to be a more significant risk factor. And it doesn't matter which kind of alcohol, beer, wine, mixed drink, whatever.
But I have had, you know, friends who have been told straight up by their physician who have had breast cancer and they're in remission, you do not drink. That is, like, a number one behavioral factor that we can control, and let's control it.
So, you know, I'm not telling you to cut out all the alcohol, but know your family history and. And just be conscious of it, you know?
[00:37:58] Speaker E: Well, moderation just goes for anything. And I think, you know, Sheena, you were talking about, like, football season and tailgating and how we like to partake in these things. I mean, it's just something we should be aware of.
[00:38:08] Speaker C: Definitely. No, I knew, Like, I was like, okay, we gotta mention that in our last bit. Like. Okay, so now we're transitioning to the question that we have been asking all of our guests. And, Nika, you've been with us before, so, you know, you're used to us kind of going rogue and asking our guests, like, something random. And, you know, before, we would ask all of our guests, like, what does self care look like for you? But Whitney came up with a fabulous question this time. So we have been asking our guests, what gets you hype? Like, whether that's music. Is there, like a.
I don't know,
[00:38:41] Speaker E: like, when you just, like, need to.
[00:38:43] Speaker D: Like, when I get high.
[00:38:45] Speaker E: Good.
[00:38:45] Speaker D: And, like, hype.
[00:38:46] Speaker C: What just makes you feel like, who?
[00:38:47] Speaker D: Who, who? Like, hype. Oh, 90s booty music.
[00:38:50] Speaker E: 90s booty music, hands down. Yeah.
[00:38:52] Speaker D: Like, what's scars, you know, 69 boys.
Give me that donkey butt and the big old legs.
[00:38:59] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:39:00] Speaker D: That kind of, like, from my youth. Like, we would put that on and we would get turnt up. See, most with no alcohol or drugs.
[00:39:07] Speaker E: Right. See, just natural endorphins of, like, feeling good.
[00:39:10] Speaker D: Yeah. Like, if I need to get my yard mode, I'm gonna throw some outcast bombs over Baghdad.
[00:39:14] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:39:15] Speaker D: Gonna get it done.
[00:39:16] Speaker C: I've got a hand clap for that one.
[00:39:19] Speaker E: You know what's funny? Most of our people, I think Charles said it last week, like, music. He said, despacito gets him hyped. And I was like, really?
[00:39:27] Speaker D: Charles?
[00:39:28] Speaker C: But he also said. And I can't remember if he said this on air or not, but it's when you have, like, something scheduled in your calendar, but then the other person cancels it, and so they realize, yeah, you're free.
[00:39:39] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:39:40] Speaker C: Like, oh, I have this, like, random block of free time.
[00:39:43] Speaker E: And no.
[00:39:43] Speaker C: And you deal with that.
[00:39:44] Speaker D: You are the one that gets you.
[00:39:45] Speaker E: Exactly, exactly.
[00:39:46] Speaker C: And then we also. And I have to say this every time. We also. Paige Acker from Universe she program, she said what gets her hype is a well organized plan for the day.
[00:39:55] Speaker E: I mean, I guess if, you know, you've got it planned out, then you're like, I feel good.
[00:39:59] Speaker D: This is a nice. But if I'm gonna throw some bows and I'm gonna drop it low, it's gonna have to be outkast.
[00:40:05] Speaker E: No, I love it. I think that's a wrap.
[00:40:08] Speaker C: Okay, so with that said, y' all get hype, get some 90s booties music, and we will see you next week. You have been listening to fit to be tied with sheena and Whitney on 90.7, the capstone.
[00:40:23] Speaker B: Wvuafm tuscaloosa.
