Fit2BTide S07.E20: What Is Mindfulness?

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Wvuafm tuscaloosa. [00:00:13] Speaker B: Happy Sunday, y'. All. You are listening to Fit to be tied with Sheen and Whitney on 90.7, the capstone. And we are now in April. We are. [00:00:21] Speaker C: I mean, I feel like we just recorded not too long ago. [00:00:24] Speaker B: I know. It's like, wait a second. But yeah, no, I mean, it's so crazy. It's pretty much the beginning of the month. I think that what it is, April 3rd. Yeah. So, yeah. I don't know. But how was your weekend? [00:00:36] Speaker C: It was very good. I didn't really do too much. Oh, no. I went to Huntsville. That's right. And saw some family. It was my mom's birthday. Hung out, saw the other family, Jason's family. And so it was. It was really good. What about yours? [00:00:50] Speaker B: It was good. You know, actually we did. My husband and I, we went. Gosh. That was on Thursday the 31st. We went to Birmingham. There is a comedian that we went to see. His name is Ney Bargazi. Okay. Kind of like dry, not crass, but like, you know, it's like stuff is always the funniest one. It's like, oh, my gosh, that is so true. And so he is like that kind of comedian. I like that. Like, a couple months ago, Terry sent me a text, and it was just like a screenshot of like, hey, I ordered these tickets. And I'm like, did not even know this was happening. You just earned yourself some genius brownie points. Yeah. But earlier that day, we took the kids to my parents house in Fort Payne because my parents wanted to see them that weekend. So I was like, can I just drop them off on Thursday then? Yeah, so that was good. So, yeah, good. [00:01:42] Speaker C: Well, I know last week we talked a lot about, like, kind of, you know, reevaluating goals and putting more of an emphasis and a more of an intention on, you know, what we're doing. And so I think this week, Sheena, you know, we were kind of talking like, what are we going to talk about? You know, because sometimes, I'm not going to lie, people, sometimes it gets. We've been going on the air for a long time and, you know, we kind of have similar topics that we discuss, and there's always different takes and different guests that we have on, but we were kind of thinking about it, and I don't think we've ever fully talked about mindfulness exercise and, like, exercise formats and intuitive and mindful eating. I think we've kind of alluded to it, but I don't think we've ever really talked about it or explained it. And I'm sure there's a lot of folks that are like, I don't even know what that means. [00:02:27] Speaker B: I agree. And, you know, I know that when we were preparing for this show, we definitely acknowledge that these two topic areas are probably, I'm assuming, you know, our personal passions, like, within, like, our different niches. Like, because I feel like you are very much into mindfulness with yoga and movement and then with the type of work that I like to do with students one on one and programming, it is kind of getting away from that shift in diet culture where you're listening to all of these external rules about eating and you're getting back to the basics of listening to your body. And sometimes people that don't know, like, what that feels like or what they [00:03:07] Speaker C: should be looking for or how you know how to do it, and it's just, it's so interesting because we get it and we can talk about to other professionals. And it's such a fun topic to me because it can go so in depth. And I'm a big, like, anatomy person. Like, if you were to look at my YouTube feed, aside from, like, cultural food, you know, exploration, all that, it's like, you know, movements and how the body moves and muscle groups, and it's so intrinsic. And a lot of times when people are exercising or working out, they really just don't understand the movement principles of the body or the muscle groups that are working. And like, thankfully, the machines that we have in the rec center, they actually tell you what muscle group you're working. But it's so surface and it's. I. I like to go a little deeper. As a Pilates instructor and a yoga instructor, I kind of like to think of it at a deeper level. Not that I'm gonna go work out, but how is the body going to move efficiently so that when you age and get older, you're gonna feel good, you're going to have, like, healthy joints and be mobile. So I don't know, I'm kind of excited. I think I'm going to give us a history lesson in our next segment, just because I kind of like history. So I don't know, we might just go for it. [00:04:13] Speaker B: No, I'm excited thinking about that. And, you know, as you were talking about it, you know, I was thinking about past shows. When we think about all of the different types of fitness, when somebody talks about, you know, being physically fit, and when we think about that flexibility and in doing things like yoga and Pilates, I feel like there has been. I don't know if the word resurgence is appropriate, but it's become more relevant, and people are recognizing it for the importance that it has, especially with exercise programs and incorporating that. It's not just this whole hardcore cardio and hardcore strength day. It's, oh, you need a mind body connection, too. But before we get too crazy with that, we're gonna take a break, grab a beverage to hydrate, use the restroom, do all the things you need to do. Maybe a breathing moment. You are listening to Fit to Be Tied with Sheena and Whitney on 90.7 the capst. [00:05:08] Speaker A: Wvuafm Tuscaloosa. [00:05:15] Speaker C: Welcome back. You're listening to Fit to Be Tied. And we have kind of a different focus today, and I'm kind of excited because this is. This is literally something I feel like I could talk about forever, and I get really passionate about. So I'll try not to, like, keep us all, you know, on the radio for 10 hours. But, Sheena, we both have, I guess, an intuition with our clients, and, you know, the patrons that I work with that, like, a lot of times they don't understand what a mind body connection is. Or maybe, like, in nutrition, like, enjoying food and being intuitive and maybe, you know, understanding when you're full. I guess that's kind of how you look at it. It's just so interesting to me. But what. But what I wanted to do is I kind of want to talk about what mind body is, and then I kind of want to talk about, like, what that looks like with exercise and just specifically, you know, what I do when I'm teaching and what I look at. And I'm not, like, as far as an expert as I want to be, but I strive to be. So hopefully I can, you know, you know, enlighten all of this. But if you've ever been to the rec center, if you've ever been to a class and you've taken a yoga or Pilates class, they're typically going to be categorized under a format called mind body. It's not mind and body. It's mind dash body. And that is a connection to where when we're moving the body and space, we are fully aware of what we're doing. So, you know, when you go to the gym and you lift your weights and you see some participants in the gym slamming weights around, there's not a connection, like a holistic connection to what they're doing. So I'm gonna give you a quick little history lesson. So I teach Pilates I teach yoga. And I'm curious for our audience members, this is like, rhetorical because you can't talk to us, I guess, but, you know, in your mind, do you know what the differences of yoga and Pilates are? Do you know what the difference of yoga Pilates are? [00:06:58] Speaker B: I do not. [00:06:59] Speaker C: Okay. Ye. [00:07:00] Speaker B: So I want. I need to be enlightened. Like, I know, like, when I'm in a class, I feel like some of the movements are, you know, obviously different, but I think from a very, I guess, information perspective, I'm really kind of ignorant to those things. [00:07:19] Speaker C: Well, I think it's kind of interesting because I had a student ask me this week. She came to my yoga class and she was like, hey, I have a really stupid question. And I was like, no. And she's like, what's Pilates? And to me, I'm like, that's not a stupid question at all. Because the industry, not all of it, but a lot of the industry has made Pilates into this, like, very strengthening and you're going to tone and you're going to lose weight kind of thing. Pilates actually started with Joseph Pilates. And it started he was born in, I think, 1883, and he's from Germany. And so he was a very innovative person that when he was a child, he was very sick and he had a lot of ailments. And he kind of made it his mission to, like, he even wrote a book, Return to Life, explaining. It's really cool to read, explaining, like, why we should be moving, how culture is changing our posture and tightening muscles, loosening muscles. And it's really the same as now. I think it happened when, probably during the Industrial Revolution, when people started to work more in factories, and it wasn't out in the fields and being in sunlight. And so that has a tendency to change your posture. And we know it now because we're at desk all the time, very upper cross. We have tight chest, overstretched back. It messes up the alignment of the spine. Anyway, so Joseph Pilates, he actually, I won't go too much into his childhood history and everything, but he was very active. He trained people. He had a knack for moving people's bodies, and he was way before his time. He would use influences of yoga, which I'll explain that in a second, to create his method called contrology, which is Pilates. And so he created these exercises that he believed would fix and correct your spine, your posture and alignment by strengthening your core, which is essentially your abdominals, your obliques, your erector spinae, your transverse abs, which is this inner unit of the body that creates core strength for your spine. So it's so cute. He came over from Germany over to the United States when everybody was migrating over this way and met his sweet little wife Clara, who was a nurse. And they opened up shop in New York. They began to see people privately. And this is when he created the method of, like, mat exercises that you typically see people do. But he also invented, I think, like, five or six different pieces of equipment that he designed. And so, you know, I mean, it's kind of hard to describe what these things are, but one thing that we use at the rec center is called the universal reformer. And it's spring tension and pulleys to create resistance so that you can, you know, holistically work the body. And then he created the trapeze table with a tower. There's a one to chair, There's a ladder barrel. There's like, all these pieces of equipment. So not to just bore you guys with the history lesson, this was a hundred years ago. And in the industry of Pilates, we have had people that have now created these companies to build and sell this equipment and train people from a lineage of elders so that people like myself can go through a comprehensive training and work with people with these types of exercises. [00:10:28] Speaker B: I love that, you know, and I think, well, for one, I'm geeking out thinking about the fact of, like, you know, when you think about Pilates and think about why something is named, what it is, you know, a lot of times it is named after a person. So could you imagine having a set or style of movement that is named after you? It's crazy. I don't know. [00:10:49] Speaker C: And so people that, like, go through actual Pilates training and learn it are very, like, sacred with what it is, because it started with Joseph Pilates, and he had no idea, like, literally that all over the world we teach Pilates now. I mean, South Korea teaches it, China teaches it, Germany teaches. I mean, like, it's everywhere. You can find a studio so to kind of backtrack a little bit. We kind of know it started with the man, but there's methods and principles. And so the idea is to strengthen the body, to create more of a holistic approach. So the movements are very core centered and mobilizing. So like spinal movement. And there's some populations that don't need to do some of the exercises. And your instructor would know all that kind of stuff. But it's very different from yoga. And I'll just kind of briefly Talk about yoga for a second. Yoga was created, like, even further back. It was created over with our friends in the eastern side of the world, and it was created in India for more of a meditation practice, movement principles that would salute the sun, that focused on waking up in the morning and creating a sun citation, which we do in yoga. So Joseph Pilates actually took elements of yoga and incorporated it into to his system. [00:12:03] Speaker B: That is so cool. Well, you know, so my question now is, like, what kind of health goals would somebody describe to you where your first thought would be like, oh, they would really benefit from Pilates? So, like, what. What's kind of. What would be, like, the target audience that would benefit from Pilates? Or it could be a situation where you're like, hey, everybody needs to be doing Pilates. [00:12:25] Speaker C: You know, that's kind of the thing. Like, everybody should be doing it. We in the Pilates field, we work with dancers. That's specifically a niche that a lot of instructor dancers have seen a great value because they get injured all the time dancing, and so they don't always work out the correct way. But Pilates targets the type of muscles that they need to be strengthening. But, like, with my clients, I have people that just need to mobilize their shoulder blades. They have shoulder problems, so they don't understand how to use the muscles in the shoulder girdle to properly move the body. So anybody can do Pilates, and it doesn't mean that you're doing the same format and method. It's tailored to your individual needs. So I don't know. There's a lot more that we can go into, but I think we should probably take a break. [00:13:13] Speaker B: Yeah, no, let's take a break, because I know I want to talk with you more about this. We'll kind of shift over to some intuitive eating too. But y' all go take a stretch. Take a breather. Go look up some Pilates classes. During the break, you are listening to Fit to Be Tied with Jeanne and Whitney on 90 points capstone. [00:13:38] Speaker A: Wvuafm Tuscaloosa. [00:13:45] Speaker C: Welcome back. You're listening to Fit to Be Tied with Sheena and Whitney. And Sheena's just got me so excited because I'm getting to talk about my favorite things, which is Pilates and movement. And it seems so surface level, but when you really start to understand the history of Pilates, it's really, really cool. [00:13:59] Speaker B: Well, when you speak about it, I think that what is neat is that there is an obvious reverence that's there from knowing the history. And so I think that that makes you so much better of an instructor because I think, you know, because you are selling this experience to the client and letting them understand the value and that you're understanding the science behind it, too, versus just going through the movement so that you're not having that mind body connection. But I would. I am curious to ask, what kind of things do you think are the biggest misconceptions about Pilates or even yoga? You know, where people, like, come in and they just have this, like, flippant assumption. You're like, dude, that is, like, not even correct in any kind of way. But I guess I could see why you think that. So what are those? What kind of experiences have you had with that? [00:14:50] Speaker C: Well, I think it's kind of interesting because as a movement professional, the way I view Pilates and movement is very differently than what the fitness industry, not the Pilates industry. Pilates industry is pretty grounded because of the people that run it and they work together. But the fitness industry always wants to capitalize on things making you lose weight or get fit. And, like, when we teach Pilates, we aren't thinking about that at all. Even in yoga, if you're a true practitioner of yoga, it's not Buddha yoga. It's not. It's not the gimmicks. It's like a reverence. Even with yoga, it's a reverence to a culture of people and movement principles that have been going on for, you know, thousands or hundreds, thousands of years. I think that a lot of times people think that Pilates is for girls, when in fact, it was actually created by a man, Joseph Pilates. And I'm not gonna lie that it has. The women have definitely kind of taken over that practice, because I think it's just, I don't know, maybe that we enjoy the movement of it, but a lot of movement on the Reformer. And the principles that Joseph Pilates taught are very hard. I physically can't do them because I don't have enough strength in my upper body. So Pilates is used for athletes, soccer players, football players. I used to do some training at a studio in Nashville, and they worked with Titans players. And the strength and coordination that they would have to do for these exercises for what they were training for. I mean, a male body is the one that started it, the way the spring tension is. So I think that's a misconception. I also think another misconception is for a yoga class that you have to be super bendy and flexible in order to do yoga. There's so many different formats of yoga. And if you're a true yoga practitioner, an instructor, you're going to make it accessible to anybody. Because the focus of yoga is the pranayama, which just means the breath. And it's all about breath and how we move. And so I could teach a yoga class to sweet little seniors in a chair and then get the benefit, or I can go teach a power yoga class to football players, and they're going to get the benefit. So I think it's just unfortunately, I think people like to capitalize on the trendy things and they miss out on the importance of it. [00:17:05] Speaker B: You know, like, I was thinking goat yoga right now. [00:17:08] Speaker C: Yeah. I couldn't focus. Like, I've had some instructors do it and they say it's fun, but, like, I'm like, I know what I like to get out of my practice, but I don't want to go, like, on my back. [00:17:15] Speaker B: Yeah, that's so weird. Yeah. Well, you mentioned power yoga. So what is the pace of that compared to, I guess, a regular yoga, [00:17:25] Speaker C: like an intermediate type? You know, power yoga is not going to be for the beginner at all. It's really not going to be. Be for maybe the intermediate. It's more. You're going to be doing a full sun salutation, which puts a lot of, like, emphasis on the shoulder joints, hip joints. It's longer holds, it's longer planks. It's good, though. I mean, it's really good. And if an instructor can teach it safely, and we do that at the rec center. Jordan, one of our instructors, she's amazing. Great class. It's just elevated. I teach one of my favorite yoga classes. I teach a gentle yoga class, and I make it my goal to, like, not stand the whole time. Like, we just are gonna breathe and stretch and people actually like it. I thought people wouldn't because they want to come and work out. I've increased participation because they want to, like, be given the permission to, like, lay there. Yeah, it's, like, cool to do that. But anyway, I don't know. I do think it relates over to the eating part of it as well, because I know in Pilates, it's like you make that one behavior change to start taking care of your body and you feel differently. You start feeling it differently. So I think now's a good time to kind of talk about, like, intuitive eating and how that looks on your side. [00:18:35] Speaker B: Absolutely. And so, you know, going back to something that you mentioned earlier, where you stated that the fitness industry, you know, in a lot of Ways, you know, there's kind of this marketing that anything that we do movement wise, has to focus on weight loss. [00:18:51] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:18:52] Speaker B: And so with intuitive eating, one of the things that myself and other practitioners that specialize in this area is really fighting against diet culture, which has wanted to use intuitive eating as another trendy way to lose weight. Whereas that is not how it was created at all. And it was actually, it was originally a text that was created in, I think, 1995 by two registered dietitians. And from that point until now, there have been hundreds of studies to validate the practice of intuitive eating and all of the different principles. And when you look at the data that's out there, the benefits. Benefits to intuitive eating can include reduced cholesterol, increase positive body image, you know, other lab markers being reduced. And I like to use that information especially because it's very data specific, where you might have. Like, I've seen somebody on YouTube before that says, like, oh, intuitive eating is like, so stupid because they have this conception that it's this whole, like, you eat what you want whenever you want. There's no regards to health. You're basically just saying, like, oh, you know, if you're craving a cheeseburger, know, you, you just eat that all the time. And that's not what intuitive eating is. It's really just getting back to the basics of, for one, trusting your body, what it's communicating. We were made in a way where our body is very resilient and I mean, for lack of better word, intuitive. It's going to communicate the nutrients that it needs. But we've been sold in this industry of like, oh, you have to follow our book or you have to follow this plan that if my body is telling me that it's hungry at 7:30pm I. I'm saying to my body, no, I'm not gonna feed you. Don't. You know, I'm intermittent fasting right now. You know, nothing. You're an idiot. And my body's just like, I'm just. Your body? [00:20:45] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm just trying to tell you what I need. [00:20:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, I'm just saying, you know, it's [00:20:49] Speaker C: the exact same thing with. And we talked about this last week on the show, like, being kind to your body and like, gratitude. And that's the thing that yoga teaches us is we are in a world of like, you have to do it this way. Go, go, go. You have to look a certain way. But, like, yoga is practiced all over the world. And, you know, unfortunately, us in the west, we do Yoga, but we still put our spin on it. You know, like, even when I'm teaching a class and I, you know, look out and I've got a very diverse population, and I do have some Indian friends that come and take it. It reminds me of where it started in the practice and everybody's intention is a little different. So I think with yoga, it does help you to say, okay, I get to, like, experience this and slow down and I give myself permission. It's kind of like with food, you give yourself permission to eat things, but you're also noticing, like, how your body feels when you eat them, when you're full, when you're like, maybe you shouldn't keep eating, your body says, hey, I'm kind of full right now. And you're like, oh, okay. Same thing with yoga. Don't go fully into this posture or this pose. Your body is going to restrict and tell you not to because it's not ready. So never force into it. It's interesting. [00:21:56] Speaker B: It is. And, you know, we talked a little bit earlier about the ways that the industry has taken things like Pilates, yoga, or maybe intuitive yoga. [00:22:06] Speaker C: I like Pilates. That would be kind of fun. Like yoga and Pilates. [00:22:09] Speaker B: Yes. You know, have done some trendy things with it. And so I was actually thinking about one of the workout facilities where you do the physical movement in a hot box. Just kind of curious, what is your thought on that? I don't know if I've ever asked your professional opinion on is this just a trendy thing. Is there anything beneficial to you doing certain types of movements in an extremely hot environment? [00:22:36] Speaker C: You know, I would always preface and say it's not for everybody. I think if you're used to it and you've worked your way up. I personally like hot environments, like when I do yoga because I'm a very cold nature person. So my body temperature, in order for me to start moving, moving into a yoga practice, I kind of. I wear a lot of clothes or I have to have it warmer. So I think it kind of depends on the person. You know, I think the intention of a hot box is to lose weight because it's like you're sweating and all that kind of stuff. But, you know, in hot yoga, there's a Bikram yoga. It's a very specific type of yoga. Traditionally where you're in a hot room, the instructor's putting you through the exercises, you're not allowed to have water. You're. You're kind of depriving yourself of that because I think it's teaching you, you a different level of, like, self realization. I think it has a different mindset behind it. But I think hot spaces are fine. I just don't really recommend them for people because I just don't know somebody's background. But if it's something that you're used to doing, I think it's fine. I wouldn't necessarily do cardio or anything super vigorous in that hot space. I mean, it just doesn't feel very good. You're stressing your body too much. But for a yoga or Pilates practice, having a little bit more warmth, I mean, I think is a good thing. [00:23:49] Speaker B: I appreciate you sharing that because again, it goes back to what is the motivation behind. So I love that. Okay, on that note, let's take a break. Let's hydrate. Let's do all the things. You will catch us on the flip side. You're listening to Fit to be tied with Sheena and Whitney on 90.7 the Capstone [00:24:09] Speaker A: WVUAFM Tuscaloosa. [00:24:15] Speaker C: Namaste, everybody. I thought, actually before I get into asking you a bunch of questions about intuitive eating and mindful eating, because I'm kind of confused on, like, what they mean, the differences, if there are differences. Similarities. I thought I would just bring to light, like, what namaste means, because I know that, like, it's kind of trendy, people like to throw it around, but actually, it's pretty reverent. It has our friends in India, Actually, I believe it's Hindu. And I could be wrong. Even you could send us a message to correct me. But it just means, basically, I honor you and I bow to you, and it's a greeting of respect. And so I'm not gonna lie, I'll get a little irritated when I see, like, a shirt that says Namaste in bed. And I'm like, okay, I get it's funny. But, like, at the same time, you never know. Like, you know the cultural reference behind it. So if you're ever curious and you do take a yoga class and the instructor places their hands at heart center, bows and says namaste, you can respectfully say it back to them. Cause I. I know sometimes in our Western culture, we don't know how to respond. And so you just say namaste, and it's just a nice little greeting. [00:25:15] Speaker B: I love that. And, you know, for anyone who has taken a foreign language class, it has always been so interesting to me where there is an intentional use of, like, formal pronouns and informal and really just that sense of respect. And I'm not saying we don't have that in good old US Of A. But just something culturally that I appreciate. [00:25:39] Speaker C: Yeah, I agree. Okay, Sheena, I have talked so much, and I could talk so much more, but I'm very curious because this is kind of new to me as well, but, like, intuitive eating versus mindfulness eating or mindful eating. And I'm just curious, are they similar? Are they different? I mean, can you just educate us on this? [00:25:55] Speaker B: Absolutely. So there are certainly some similarities, and I think that, you know, depending on where you're looking, whether it's on social media, websites, whatever, they are often used interchangeably, but that's not always a correct thing to do. So for one, as far as commonalities or. Well, I'll just say with mindful eating specifically, in a nutshell, that's really focused on that current eating experience that you are in. So just like intuitive eating, you're being mindful of honoring your hunger and. And your fullness levels and then being mindful about the food that's in front of you. Whereas with intuitive eating, it does focus on those things, but it kind of goes outside of that as well. So it's really changing what somebody's thought process and attitudes about food are as a whole. And like diet culture in general, intuitive eating explicitly talks about physical activity, whereas with mindful eating, you know, there's no mention about physical activity. It's not addressed because it's really talking about the food that's in front of you at the moment. And then also to intuitive eating incorporates a principle called gentle nutrition. And so the thing about intuitive eating, there's 10 principles to it, and they are ordered in a very intentional way. And so the very first principle of intuitive eating is getting rid of the diet mentality. So if somebody is dabbling in intuitive eating and they want to get started, like, the very first thing we want to do to rewire your thought process is you've got to get out of this diet mentality. So that might be the person that feels like the only way that they've ever been able to exist is if they're going from diet to diet because they're scared of, like, oh, if I'm not following Paleo, or if I'm not doing Whole 30, I don't know how to eat, I'm just going to let myself go. [00:27:49] Speaker C: I feel like that's a really big one to let go. Yeah, I mean, especially. I guess that's why it's number one. Like, you have to change your mindset. [00:27:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Basically, like, it's okay, like, you don't have to follow this, like, prescribed plan. And that can probably be one of the biggest hurdles for people to kind of go through. The next principle of intuitive eating is finally getting somebody to honor their hunger. So you know somebody whether they have an eating disorder or not. If I didn't eat all day, of course I'm going to overeat at dinner. If you're being more proactive about your hunger, you're probably going to eat in a much different way and not to go through every single one. But what I will say though is that towards the end of the principles, the last ones are actually focused on physical activity and general nutrition. And we do that last because those are the types of things that people can abuse and kind of use in a very punitive way. So gentle nutrition is basically, you know, yes, you can use that knowledge from your dietitian of like, hey, you have high blood pressure running in your family, it would be great to choose some, you know, lower sodium foods when you can. Or the Mediterranean diet is very heart healthy. So you can use that knowledge and information. Information. But you also have this freedom with food where you don't have these like, weird, like, food rules that you created for yourself, like, oh, I can never have xyz. So it's like, okay, let's get rid of like all of the weird mush that you've been thinking in your head about food over time. Like all these weird rules. [00:29:26] Speaker C: And it's so wart, you know, it's such a wart. Because I was thinking about this too, of like, first of all, I think we should come up with our wellness retreat. And I think you should be in charge of the nutrition, intuitive eating and mindfulness eating classes. And we can have really good food, healthy food. I can lead yoga. Anyway, maybe we should do something like that. I think it'd be kind of awesome. [00:29:47] Speaker B: Can we do that as like a summer project for like, students and faculty staff? Just like a mindfulness series. Ooh, I'm geeking out about that. [00:29:56] Speaker C: I kind of think that would be fun, like some type of way. Anyway, you're hearing it happen, so give us some time and we'll try to work it out. But like, you know, it's just, it all plays into it. So, like, if I start changing my behavior and maybe thinking differently about my food, that could then move over to my exercise habits. And it's just, it really all comes down, I think, to lack of education and knowledge and not really understanding things. But it Also comes down to our mindset of, like, how we treat food, because I guarantee you, if you took a human being from a different part of the world on the other side, and you, you know, set asked, like, did a survey and said, you have this American here, college student, and you have this student from South Korea, like, what are your views on food? And it would. And exercise and weight loss. It would probably be very different. [00:30:42] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I think even with one of the principles talking about honoring your hunger, there is one of the principles that's in there that discusses being aware of your fullness levels. So I know that we probably have many listeners that were similar to myself in the way they were raised, where you're part of the clean plate club. Yeah. So maybe your only cue to stop eating is the fact that there's no longer food on your plate and you. And the only level of fullness that you've ever experienced is uncomfortable overfulness. Or. I even have had clients that will tell me that they're so scared of feeling full because maybe their mom said, like, oh, if you're full and satisfied, you're gonna gain weight. So I've had clients who have told me that historically, they have always eaten just short of the point of fullness, where they're actually still a little bit hungry because mom or sister or something in some, like, magazine said, like, oh, you know, diet tip. Don't ever eat till the point of being, you know, full and satisfied or you'll gain weight. [00:31:48] Speaker C: That's crazy. [00:31:49] Speaker B: Yeah. And so if somebody has only ever heard, like, maybe their best friend who Their only sense of fullness is being, like, uncomfortably stuffed. Yeah. I might say, like, oh, yeah, I don't want to feel that way. But there's actually this, like, happy medium of, oh, I just had this last. This last bite. That feels comfortable to me. I am satisfied. I'm no longer needing anything. I don't feel like I have to immediately take a nap. Like, I'm. Yeah. Like, I am just okay. And, like, teaching people to check in with themselves in the middle of the meal, experience that mindfulness of, yeah, am I satisfied right now? Because an amount of food that gets you satisfied today might look a little bit different tomorrow. Because I think sometimes we can make this assumption of, like, oh, I, you know, I should still be hungry because I haven't eaten as much as I normally do for this same type of meal that I had yesterday. Well, there can be so many different nuances to, like, what our body needs. And even people recognizing what hunger feels like to them, because I'll have students that say they're so used to ignoring hunger signals. And so, you know, if you think about the sensation of hunger, it's a negative sensation to the body. So if the body used to be good about saying, like, hey, Whitney, I'm hungry, but you couldn't eat because you were teaching a Pilates class or whatever else, the body's like, well, I don't want you to feel those pain signals anymore. We'll create some endorphins to mute that. It has to get creative about still communicating to you. Hey, I need some nutrition. So it might be I'm gonna make you feel fatigued. I might give you a headache. I might. [00:33:20] Speaker C: Lightheaded. [00:33:21] Speaker B: Yeah, lightheaded. Inability to concentrate. So a lot of times with intuitive eating, I'll talk to folks about how we can recalibrate how the body is giving those traditional hunger cues. [00:33:31] Speaker C: It's, you know, it's so crazy how similar your practice is to mine and how really what it comes down to is as an individual person, you have to only look at you. You have to let. This is a yoga thing. We talk about letting go of competition, letting go of judgment, letting go of expectations, because ultimately, nobody really. It sounds terrible, and I don't mean this to sound a bad way, but, like, if you're doing what you need to do, you're going to benefit because you're the only, you know, person thinking about your holistic being. You're not worried about your friend, what their. Their influence is on you. Whether they're, quote, unquote skinnier than you or they have that perfect look. It doesn't really matter because everybody's created so differently. So that's when you have to, like, that's why it's so important to do these, like, intuitive, you know, eating and yoga because you learned the importance and give yourself gratitude. And I don't know, I encourage everybody to try a yoga class. [00:34:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm, like, geeking out right now. Like, again, I feel like we could talk on this all day long, but we should probably take a break. [00:34:32] Speaker C: We will. [00:34:32] Speaker B: We have our last segment, but you guys, you'll catch us on the flip side. You are listening to Fit to be tied with Sheen and Whitney on 90.7 capstone. [00:34:44] Speaker A: Wvuafm Tuscaloosa. [00:34:50] Speaker C: Welcome back. We are closing out another show. Sheena and Whitney are geeking out today because when you give us topics that we know a lot about and we like talking about, it's like you can just keep going and keep Talking, you know. [00:35:01] Speaker B: I agree. I feel like we have totally got to bring this topic up again, I think. So in a future show maybe we'll bring some guests, some folks that practice within, you know, these fields that we geek out about too. We can have like a big like love fest that would be cool on all the things. But you know, as I was thinking about this last segment, Whitney, I was like, I'm to just going, gonna go completely out of the box. You know, we, we, we said our piece for the most part on the things that we love. And I might have asked this to you before, but what's your favorite movie? Like what is your favorite genre of movies? Like I, we've kind of had some like conversation about you know, types of like shows and things in general. But like, if you were to name like your top three favorite movies or yeah, anything in that vein, what could you say? [00:35:49] Speaker C: You know, that's interesting. I can't say that I have an actual favorite movie. It's really weird. Like I just can't put my finger on a favorite movie. But I will say, in my opinion, what makes a really good movie is it has to have all the things. It's got a comedy drama, it has to have a love story. It's got to have some sort of excitement. I'm a really big fan of the Back to the Future trilogy. Good choice. Just because I feel like it's that classic, you know, like trilogy that you're gonna bring in all the characters. Michael J. Fox is amazing. Like they're just lovable. I really, really like, I like trilogies because I like a continuation, but I like an end to it. I love the Matrix because I like Keanu Reeves. So those would probably be my, like if someone's like, you have to sit down and you've got to watch a movie. I'd probably say Back to the Future because I like the light heartedness. But then I'm gonna go a step further and say that my favorite genre of movies that are, I look forward to. I'm kind of a big Marvel fan. Like a geek really. [00:36:47] Speaker B: I did not know this about you. [00:36:49] Speaker C: I watch all of them. I don't really read the comics, but I'll like reference on the Internet. So I understand things. But I get very excited when a character is born in like a new character and I'm like, what's their backstory? I have to know what it is. So I don't know. What about you? [00:37:04] Speaker B: I like that. [00:37:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:06] Speaker B: So I would say, you know, if someone were to Just point blank, say, like, what's one of your favorite movies? Like, one of the first movies that comes to mind for me is Coming to America. [00:37:18] Speaker C: That's a good one. [00:37:20] Speaker B: And it's just. It's one of those movies because, like, you know, sometimes I think about a favorite movie. It's what is something where if, you know, I'm scrolling through the TV and I'm like, oh, my gosh, this is on. On tbs. Like, I can default to this. [00:37:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:33] Speaker B: So Coming to America is like that for me. I feel like Forrest Gump is like, [00:37:37] Speaker C: that's a good one. [00:37:38] Speaker B: You know, it's long. Sometimes I have to be in the mood. [00:37:41] Speaker C: It's on TBS all the time. [00:37:42] Speaker B: Yes, yes. So something like that. And my husband has recently been watching re. Watching all of the Lord of the Rings movies. And then, like, the directors are extending cut, and I'm like, oh, my Leanna. That's a lot. I'm like, this one movie was four hours with this extended cut. Like, are you okay? [00:38:00] Speaker C: Do you like Harry Potter? [00:38:01] Speaker B: I do. You know, the last set of movies, like, I did not keep up with as much. So it was probably like the first, like, three that I was like, oh, man. And then I kind of, like, went off the wagon. Yeah. So I feel like that that's something that I could revisit. [00:38:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:16] Speaker B: And then I'm always excited when I see books that I've read. [00:38:20] Speaker C: That's always fun. Yeah. [00:38:22] Speaker B: Kind of see them on the screen. So. Yeah. But anyways. But yeah, Coming to America. [00:38:26] Speaker C: That's a good one. [00:38:27] Speaker B: I don't know what it is. [00:38:28] Speaker C: It's a classic. [00:38:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:30] Speaker C: You know, I like those classics. I like, like Dumb and Dumber. Those types of, you know, where there's, like, not a lot of new movies. I'm like, oh, I gotta go see it. You know, I just. I don't know. It shows my age, I guess. [00:38:40] Speaker B: No, and I think working with our students in the office, sometimes I'll make, like, you know, pop culture references to things from things like Dumb and Dumber, and they're like, what? And so I'm glad that stuff like Friends has become relevant again. So when I, like, say things about, like, like Monica and Chandler, I'm like, oh, I don't feel, like, so fuddy duddy. [00:38:59] Speaker C: It's kind of interesting. Change of times. Well, man, what a random show. Went from Pilates to yoga to intuitive eating to Hollywood. [00:39:07] Speaker B: Absolutely. I mean, who knows what could come next? But you guys have a fabulous Sunday. You have been listening to Fit to be tied with Sheena and Whitney on 90.7 the Capstone. [00:39:20] Speaker A: Wvuafm tuscaloosa.